... its the geometry and the design of the frame you feel more than any material.
I disagree martin. The "deadness" of a carbon frame is noticeable to me right off the bat, more noticeable than its geom. I've ridden top CF's from Specialized, Trek, C'dale, Moser, Giant and they all were alike in that way.
In that row i'd only rate the Trek as a company who puts an emphasis on geometry, but Trek i think builds with a very long top tube which may not be to everybodys liking.
Moser is a traditional framebuilder, but how much did they influence the frame design... might be a relabelled OEM frame. Alu C'Dales i hear handle well, but i've never ridden one. US frames thend to have a not so agile geometry to start with.
Especially Specialized, Giant, Scott i count as bike makers who are only slowly learning about the importance of geometry. The percentage of happy CFK freme owners that ride a Time, Colnago or Fondriest seems higher to me
But i fail to feel any difference in comfort between my Columbus SL bikes and my superstiff Principia Rex. In ride feeling, yes - the P feels super stiff when standing in the pedals. In comfort, no... did all my longest rides on the tincan.
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