Campagnolo now made in China!
Moderator: robbosmans
Will all campy now be made in China? I received this water bottle-carrier and bottle last night to notice the quality of the box was not the same, then I saw 'Made in China'. Opened it up, looked ok, then I weighed it, 29 grams for the cage, weighed the Italian version and that was 20 grams!!!!!!!! NOT HAPPY!
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Yeah, good call, sorry wrong section. How do I move this to another section?
It should be legitimate, I got it from ProBikeKit here: https://www.probikekit.co.uk/cycling-ac ... 9PG8dya0xA
I got my previous one from ProBikeKit too.
It should be legitimate, I got it from ProBikeKit here: https://www.probikekit.co.uk/cycling-ac ... 9PG8dya0xA
I got my previous one from ProBikeKit too.
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Perhaps OP got the date wrong and intended to post this tomorrow
If that's not the case, then OP would have found the first ever example of a Campagnolo part stated to be made in China.
There have been occasional discussions in the forums over the years on the topic of "where Campagnolo manufactured?"
Romania is well known and acknowledged by Campy. I had suspicions that there was manufacturing of shifters in Taiwan, and similar to OP's example, one poster had a parts box with "Made in Taiwan" on it.
Also of course, it's understood that some Fulcrum parts and assembly is in China.
Mind if I repost elsewhere tomorrow?
If that's not the case, then OP would have found the first ever example of a Campagnolo part stated to be made in China.
There have been occasional discussions in the forums over the years on the topic of "where Campagnolo manufactured?"
Romania is well known and acknowledged by Campy. I had suspicions that there was manufacturing of shifters in Taiwan, and similar to OP's example, one poster had a parts box with "Made in Taiwan" on it.
Also of course, it's understood that some Fulcrum parts and assembly is in China.
Mind if I repost elsewhere tomorrow?
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So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
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I just bought a Super Record group but threw away all the boxes except the crankset. Mine says "Made in Italy". I also have a new in box Chorus Cassette and Record Chain that say "Made in Italy" as well.
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It has been years Campy components are made in Taiwan , China or Romania by contractors before shipping them back to Italy for decals, packaging and the 'made in Italy' sticker. I would not be surprised more Campy stuff show up say 'made in China' as more consumers started accepting the reality. After all millions of people happily paid almost US$1,000 for their MIC iPhone last year.
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ipenguinking wrote:It has been years Campy components are made in Taiwan , China or Romania by contractors before shipping them back to Italy for decals, packaging and the 'made in Italy' sticker. I would not be surprised more Campy stuff show up say 'made in China' as more consumers started accepting the reality. After all millions of people happily paid almost US$1,000 for their MIC iPhone last year.
Don't talk rubbish.
The European Union has laws where sellers must state the origin of their products, or where they are mostly made.
I've had Campag products made in Taiwan and Romania ... and Italy. The label on the box simply states their true origin. No-one is trying to trick anyone.
On the other end around 40000 chinese are working in Tuscany , making "made in Italia" clothes.
Working conditions are as bad as they are in China, they don't pay taxes and the profit goes to China.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2017/03/30/01003-20170330ARTFIG00255-chasse-aux-clandestins-a-prato-le-plus-grand-chinatown-d-italie.php
https://www.pressreader.com/france/le-figaro/20170331/281535110829533
Working conditions are as bad as they are in China, they don't pay taxes and the profit goes to China.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2017/03/30/01003-20170330ARTFIG00255-chasse-aux-clandestins-a-prato-le-plus-grand-chinatown-d-italie.php
https://www.pressreader.com/france/le-figaro/20170331/281535110829533
Valbrona wrote:ipenguinking wrote:It has been years Campy components are made in Taiwan , China or Romania by contractors before shipping them back to Italy for decals, packaging and the 'made in Italy' sticker. I would not be surprised more Campy stuff show up say 'made in China' as more consumers started accepting the reality. After all millions of people happily paid almost US$1,000 for their MIC iPhone last year.
Don't talk rubbish.
The European Union has laws where sellers must state the origin of their products, or where they are mostly made.
I've had Campag products made in Taiwan and Romania ... and Italy. The label on the box simply states their true origin. No-one is trying to trick anyone.
But ITALIAN LAW says that last layer of clear coat is enough to put sticker "made in Italy" ( last stage of manufacturing process ). AFAIK Campa never "cheated" about country of origin, "Italian" frame "manufacturers" do it religiously.
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Valbrona wrote:The European Union has laws where sellers must state the origin of their products, or where they are mostly made.
Assuming Europe "Made In" laws work the same as US "Made In" laws, its very possible to have a Made In Italy sticker on a product manufactured in China. The law says the country of origin is where a majority of the product's cost comes from. So its easy to have an entire product manufactured in China using Chinese parts and labor. All very cheap. Then ship it to Italy on a Chinese ship, and have the final polishing and coatings applied in Italy using Italian labor and box it in Italy. The Italian finishing and labor is more than the Chinese costs so it can officially and legally say "Made In Italy". Even though everyone knows its made in China using Chinese parts and Chinese labor. More of the input cost comes from Italy so its "Made In Italy". Not sure how marketing and advertising costs apply. They would be done by Italians and likely allocated to the products so they would add to the Italian costs to make it even more "Made In Italy".
All my bikes except my MTB and track bike have Campag and I keep all the boxes so I have dozens stored in the garage. I've just checked them all and the labels all say 'Made in Italy' except some EPS parts which say Switzerland and a couple of chainsets which say Romania.
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I only ride campy and all of my components have said either italy or romania (Bora One).
It is possible that some accessories are made in China. Not a big deal from my perspective.
It is possible that some accessories are made in China. Not a big deal from my perspective.