Carbon Fork Poll

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.

Which fork do you consider the best all-around re: weight/handling/durability?

Easton EC90
16
23%
AlphaQ sub3
9
13%
Profile Design AC
0
No votes
Reynolds Ouzo Pro
13
19%
WoundUp
3
4%
Columbus Muscle/Super Muscle
2
3%
Bontrager Triple XLite
3
4%
Time Millenium
9
13%
Look HSC
9
13%
Storck Stiletto/Stiletto Light
6
9%
 
Total votes: 70

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Oenk wrote:
spytech wrote:Oenk, do you have stiffness data on any of the other forks?



Profile Design AC 38.2
Reynolds Ouzo Pro 40.1
Bontrager Triple XLite 38.7
Time Millenium 44.3
Isaac Muscle 35.5
Scott CR-1 36.5


seems like the storcks are the stiffer forks, i dont know if that makes them the better fork or not, but the stiletto light (280g) is just as stiff as a reynolds ouzo pro.


cadence90 wrote:Frankie-B has offered to update the poll list.
I asked him to add:

Storck Stiletto/Stiletto Light
Scott CR-1
Kuota Sintema
Kestrel EMS Pro
Cannondale Slice
Mizuno/Pesenti
Giant TCR
Serotta F-2


Yes please add so we have more options to vote.

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by cadence90

Well, while we wait for Frankie to update the poll itself, I’ve started a comparative chart.
Maybe you all can help fill in missing data.
1st figure is real weight from WW / 2nd figure is stiffness (N/mm) (kindly provided by Oenk)

AlphaQ Sub3 (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
373 g / ???

Bontrager Tiple X Lite (2004, 1 1/8”, uncut)
430 g / 38.7

Cannondale Slice SI (2004, 1 1/8”, uncut)
326 g / ???

Columbus Muscle (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
391 g / ???

Columbus Super Muscle (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
336 g / ???

Easton EC90 SL (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
365 g / 45.5

EC90 SLX (2004, 1 1/8”, uncut, integrated)
299 g / 33.8

Giant TCR Composite (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
359 g / ???

Isaac 032 Muscle (2004, 1 1/8", uncut)
380 g claimed / 35.5

Kestrel EMS Pro
??? g / ???

Kuota Sintema (2002, ?”, uncut)
346 g/ ???

Look HSC 4 (2004, 1 1/8”, cut)
388 g / ???

Look HSC 4 SL (2003, 1 1/8”, cut)
357 g / ???

Mizuno/Pesenti Fiandre (2002, 1”, uncut)
344 g / ???

Profile Design AC (2003, 1”, cut)
340 g / 38.2

Reynolds Ouzo Pro (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
427 g / 40.1

Reynolds Ouzo Pro (2003, 1”, uncut)
386 g / ???

Reynolds Ouzo Pro Lite (2004, 1 1/8”, uncut)
365 g claimed / ???

Scott CR-1 Superlight (2004, 1 1/8”, uncut)
289 g / 36.5

Serotta F-2 (2003, 1 1/8”, cut)
462 g / ???

Storck Stiletto (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
330 g claimed / 51.5

Storck Stiletto Light (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
315 g / 39.5

Time Millenium (2004, 1 1/8”, uncut)
400 g /44.3

WoundUp
470 g claimed / ???


and an interesting link:
http://www.spectrum-cycles.com/65.htm
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by JTC

Kuota Sintema (2002, ?”, uncut)
346 g/ ???


2003 K27 weighs 416g uncut.


Storck Stiletto Light (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
315 g / 39.5


Actually 361g uncut.

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:smartass:
I tried to update the poll. After I put in all the forks and i tried to submit, it said there were to many poll options. :cry: The option list is limited by ten. Thats why only the storck is added.

sorry guys!
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JTC wrote:
Storck Stiletto Light (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
315 g / 39.5


Actually 361g uncut.


The light is actually 361g uncut? how heavy is the regular stiletto?

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by JTC

The light is actually 361g uncut? how heavy is the regular stiletto?


That weight actually includes the expander which is threaded in so the weight is a little missleading, but still not the 300g claimed.

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JTC wrote:
Kuota Sintema (2002, ?”, uncut)
346 g/ ???


2003 K27 weighs 416g uncut.


Storck Stiletto Light (2003, 1 1/8”, uncut)
315 g / 39.5


Actually 361g uncut.


Perhaps one could update the WW LISTINGS?
That's where the origibal numbers came from.
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Frankie - B wrote::smartass:
I tried to update the poll. After I put in all the forks and i tried to submit, it said there were to many poll options. :cry: The option list is limited by ten. Thats why only the storck is added.

sorry guys!

Thanks for tryin' Frankie, ten seems like a good number anyway....
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JTC wrote:
The light is actually 361g uncut? how heavy is the regular stiletto?


That weight actually includes the expander which is threaded in so the weight is a little missleading, but still not the 300g claimed.


I guess the light is not that light after all :(

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Ye Olde Balde One wrote:I voted Sub-3 because I like it the most of all the forks listed that I have used (Muscle, Ouzo Comp and Pro, Look HSC3 and Time)....
I have never seen any delamination problems, I use a 1" in one bike, and 1 1/8" in another and both have been good. The 1" dates back to their Bay Area days (1997), and neither uses that stupid glue in star nut, they just use decent wedges carefully positioned.

Do you happen to know which forks on the list use glue-in expanders and which do not?
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cadence90 wrote:
Ye Olde Balde One wrote:I voted Sub-3 because I like it the most of all the forks listed that I have used (Muscle, Ouzo Comp and Pro, Look HSC3 and Time)....
I have never seen any delamination problems, I use a 1" in one bike, and 1 1/8" in another and both have been good. The 1" dates back to their Bay Area days (1997), and neither uses that stupid glue in star nut, they just use decent wedges carefully positioned.

Do you happen to know which forks on the list use glue-in expanders and which do not?


The only forks I know use it are the Alpha-Q forks. The only reason I think it's stupid is because of the limited possibilities for cutting the steerer down after you glue it in place. It does add to the stiffness of the column, and gives a lot of support to the stem clamping area.
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I was researching new forks on this thread and saw the comment about the glue in alpha q expander limiting later alterations. I needed to cut mine down and discovered (at least on the AME era models) the star nut in the glued insert can be moved down further so there is enough leeway to take off at least 2-3 cm of height if you need to. I wouldn't advise it if you would be using very many spacers since the insert might wind up with the lower edge above the headset and defeat the whole purpose of it in a crash or other failure. And if would of course void any warranty.

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I have a Look HSC4 and it has been great. Stiff and it has taken a beating including a hard crash and a drive through ATM!

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Nice view of a Cannondale fork in two pieces held together by a few strands of carbon at the end of todays Giro stage. Phil was saying it was "bent"! You couldn't see the front wheel anywhere nearby.
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You mean the new Cannondale Lefty road edition? :)
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