trilocus wrote:Andrew69 wrote:trilocus, what aero bars are you using?
Thanks
enve aero road bar in size 44
Thanks, looks great!
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aaric wrote:The AR1 data cyclenutnz posted seems to confirm a big jump in 58 weights, though I don't think we've seen anyone post a 56?
53x12 wrote:cunn1n9 wrote:Superdave - can you please explain the logic of so many bike makers (Felt included) using the hidden rear brake vs the traditional front brake.
I would think that aero wise doing an integrated front brake would yield much more gains that putting the rear brake in the awkward under BB position. I am surprised that you don't use the Shimano dual mount front brake (like the Trek for example) that is supposed to be more aerodynamic but go to the trouble of hiding the rear brake when it is already kind of hidden by the seat stays. It seems a lot of trouble (plus the noted disadvantages of poorer braking that seems to plague these designs - see Marcel Wurst at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUuaKbZLWgU)
Just looking for reasons for these decisions. BTW I do like the look of the hidden rear brake but the benefits seem very small aero wise for the trouble yet no effort made on front brake which must have much more aero impact.
From what I have read, an exposed front brake costs you 30-50g of drag. 75-80% of that can be gained back by using something like a TriRig Omega or a Hooker Aero SL brake (hope I am getting those drag numbers correct as I am going off the top of my head. SD will know for sure). A completely integrated front brake like the Giant uses, can be a pain to setup, you have lots of housing and cable exposed going down to the front brake and usually you don't get great stopping power or modulation.
I agree regarding the rear brake location. I think shielding it with the design of the seat stays might make more sense. However, for Felt, by placing the brake in the BB area that allowed them to get rid of the brake bridge and were able to tune the seat stays more for comfort since the brake was no longer there.
There is no reason why you can't purchase the Shimano Dura Ace 9010 Integrated front brake and put that on the bike yourself.
53x12 wrote:Yes it is a 51. At this point there aren't many examples for weight quite yet. Hopefully over the nxt few months that will change to get a better idea on the weights.
AR1 frame
51: 1071g/335g (Stalken)
58: 1216g/331g (cyclenutnz)
So far have these sizes and weights for AR FRD
54:1037g/334g (trilocus)
58:1052g/328g (liketoride)
58: 1100g ish/334g (aaric)
At this point, weight seems far off from the 905g or whatever the final production weight was for a size 56 Felt AR FRD frame. The above weights (even subtracting out liners, bolts, RD hanger...etc.) is a ways off IMO. SuperDave said he was going to post a video weighing final production FRD and AR1 frames to YouTube. I don't believe he has yet.
53x12 wrote:Cool. Thanks SD for shooting that and posting it.
Porkinson wrote:Hi Dave,
Any Idea if (or when) the regular seat post will be made available to buy on it's own. I've stripped the threads on the 3T inserts, and I also want to be able to use my 9.6mm carbon railed saddle.
Many thanks,
Simon
Porkinson wrote:Hi Dave,
Any Idea if (or when) the regular seat post will be made available to buy on it's own. I've stripped the threads on the 3T inserts, and I also want to be able to use my 9.6mm carbon railed saddle.
Many thanks,
Simon
SuperDave wrote:
The 3T internals are available on our website and replacement VM seatposts can be ordered from our Dealer Support center via your Felt Retailer.
http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2014/Pa ... Rails.aspx
-SD