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by dereksmalls

tymon_tm wrote:has anyone who watched the Tour de Romandie stage 2 today had the impression that Iglinsky pushed Kwiatkowski out of his way in the final meters, causing Kwiatek to loose Tony Martin's wheel, and forcing him to start his sprint way to early :?:


IMO Omega doesn't provide Kwiatkowski with sufficient help, he's often left alone during the final kms. today, despite him being the race leader, only Martin showed up in the office... that's some poor team tactics :?


That's nothing, have you watched any of the tour of Turkey and seen the overhead shots with all the shouldering and headbutting going on in the final KMs of the sprints? Heaps of people muscling in on OPQS and them barging them out of the way with their bodies!

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He also doesn't have help because he often does somewhat stupid stuff. Sometimes it works, but other times he puts in way too much work too early, not unlike Sagan.
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KWalker wrote:He also doesn't have help because he often does somewhat stupid stuff. Sometimes it works, but other times he puts in way too much work too early, not unlike Sagan.


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by tymon_tm

KWalker wrote:He also doesn't have help because he often does somewhat stupid stuff. Sometimes it works, but other times he puts in way too much work too early, not unlike Sagan.


i don't understand what you mean by 'stupid stuff'?

it's obvious he's not an experienced rider, and probably lacks some skills of older guys, but just look at his results - they're by no means very impressive. in this context, what i'm wondering is why OPQS, having such a 'champ' (arguably their best cyclist this season!) in their squad, sort of abandons him in the decisive moments?

i agree he seems to do too much work riding as high as 2nd or 3rd, but then again - it's his teammates' job to ride in front of Kwiatek, not Kwiatek's to ride behind them :idea:
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g_doraz wrote:
KWalker wrote:He also doesn't have help because he often does somewhat stupid stuff. Sometimes it works, but other times he puts in way too much work too early, not unlike Sagan.


I double dare you to be positive. Just once.


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I double dare you to actually read many of my positive posts. A great example is how I changed my stance on Taylor Phinney as he has evolved as a rider. Or the posts where I compliment people on their bikes. The pro forum is about pro gear and shooting the shit about pro cycling. Its all conjecture and its OK to disagree. I simply see something different in this case.

In this case its not negative on my part, its a weakness on their part. Both of those riders are often attacking off the front a bit too early or leading their group the most out of any rider in the group. It might work in some cases, but in others they seem to be sapped and finish just off the podium. I like both racers, but its frustrating because they could probably do even better in some scenarios by being more patient. Sagan in Roubaix this year was a great example. Sagan's aggression was great when he was still a bit unknown as a rider, but since then teams have figured out how to largely contain him and its now working against him save for the odd sprint or late move like in Strade Bianchi. Everyone is quick to blame their teams, but its not a team support issue. Kwiatkowski has one of the strongest teams in the world in every race with more than enough capable riders. Cannondale might be less strong, but they're not slouches either. Its not like being on Europcar or something.
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Nutty week for the Yates boys. Simon goes down w/ a broken collarbone the same day his brother, Adam, confirms his climbing chops and now he's taken a stage and the lead by a second at the Tour of Turkey. I know it's not a 5* field, but colour me impressed.

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viviani beat mark cavendish in a straight sprint? with cavendish and full blown leadout and all? :shock:

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tymon_tm wrote:has anyone who watched the Tour de Romandie stage 2 today had the impression that Iglinsky pushed Kwiatkowski out of his way in the final meters, causing Kwiatek to loose Tony Martin's wheel, and forcing him to start his sprint way to early :?:


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Chris Froome is like a new age Fernando Escartin. I cant get over how sloppy he looks when goes for it on a climb.
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by petepeterson

Good comparison. It's kinda counterintuitive how bad he looks on a bike but is so quick. I personally do not like watching him ride.

I guess his less than perfect spring isn't hurting him too much on the fitness.

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by Guerdi

Worse than froome's style is any interview with Spilak. The guy is a real disaster at speaking :D

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He is known as man of few words and usually let his legs do the talking ;)

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by gravity

Adam Yates. Impressive! But the look of Rein Taaramae chasing valuable seconds is impressive too.

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