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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:21 pm 
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There are lot of theories about cable pull and exact actuation out there.

Did someone on here try to use a 22 (red or force) rear derailleur with the older 10 speed shifter or vice versa?
Did it work or just slightly?

My rear derailleur (older force) needs replacement. I don't have the money now to change everything, so I hope to change the parts step by step.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:43 pm 
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Rear derailleurs are interchangeable. My Red 22 derailleur is indistinguishable from the 10 speed aeroglide derailleur in weight, appearance or performance other than the 22 graphic on the cage. Given the compatibility among older derailleurs, I'd be really surprised if all the old derailleurs didn't work.

The red front derailleurs are shaped slightly differently - the red 22 front derailleur shifts better with the 11s chain and shifters in my experience.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:22 pm 
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aaric wrote:
Rear derailleurs are interchangeable. My Red 22 derailleur is indistinguishable from the 10 speed aeroglide derailleur in weight, appearance or performance other than the 22 graphic on the cage. Given the compatibility among older derailleurs, I'd be really surprised if all the old derailleurs didn't work.

The red front derailleurs are shaped slightly differently - the red 22 front derailleur shifts better with the 11s chain and shifters in my experience.


By any chance, is the Red22 FD compatible with the old Red shifter? I was debating to switch to Sram 22 by changing the least amount of parts

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:09 am 
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I don't see why it wouldn't be....but I've not tried it - I had 1st gen red shifters, and wanted the newer ergodynamic ones.

I can say that the older red yaw derailleur worked similarly on the 1st gen and red 22 shifters. Seemed to shift about the same. I had a full red 22 set on my newer bike, and compared the front derailleurs...and noticed a difference in the cages with the front derailleur, so then updated the front to red 22, which improved shifting to a point better than what I had with the previous red: Note this is using a specialized 10/11s crankset, so YMMV


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:35 am 
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Sorry I meant the 1st ten of new Sram Red w/ Yaw FD. 2012 model I believe.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:36 pm 
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My brother bought a Force 22 group last weekend and was so nice to let me try the 22 rear derailleur on my old force groupset. To my suprise (although suprise, I know sram is a smart company) the old and new derailleurs are exactly the same. Apart for the color, the only difference I could find is in the cable tensioner bolt... Also the distance between the cages is the same, so no rub from using a 10 speed chain. It installed just fine and couldn't notice any problems on the road.

This is nice as it seems that older generations and the 22 rear derailleurs are completely interchangable :twisted:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:54 pm 
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Has anybody tried using their old 10 speed crank and chainrings with their new 22 setup?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:08 pm 
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I upgraded recently to Red 22 from Red 2012 but kept my old 10sp crank but have been using Praxis rings. It works flawlessly. It actually seems to work better now with the Red 22 FD vs the Red 2012 FD.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:49 pm 
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That sounds great! I was actually also thinking of upgrading to either Praxis or CT2s. But sounds like I should go for the Praxis!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:47 pm 
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So based on your experiences, it makes sense then that I could upgrade my 2013 10-Speed Red set up to 11-speed simply by changing shifters, cassette and chain, keeping the 10-speed RD, crankset, breaks and maybe FD?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:36 pm 
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Yes, assuming your rear wheel can handle the wider 11s cassette. Though, the new FD shifts better in my experience, but that probably depends on the rings. You could simulate the difference pretty easily by sticking an 11speed chain on your current 10s setup, and shifting the front :) Heck, you might only need to replace the right brifter...


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:55 pm 
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Got the new groupset installed this weekend, and took it on the first ride yesterday. It runs smooth and with no problems at all.
Setup: SRAM Force 22 with 2013 Red 10 speed crankset and chainrings.


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