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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:41 am 
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My wheels left China o the 19th of December. They hit my door today. First thing was the scale. They spec 1260 grams plus or minus 30 grams. Mine were exactly 1260 grams. Beautiful carbon work. Spun true on my truing stand both radial and lateral. The matt UD finish looks awesome. All the radial laced spokes had nipple washers.

Just getting over the flu so it will be a little while before have tires on them and get out for a spin. Looking at these wheels almost makes me feel better.

During the whole process Kyle kept me well informed by email. Sent me pictures of the final build for my approval before shipping the wheels. Overall its been a good experience for me.

Pictures to follow.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:20 am 
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I've had my 50mmx24mm CC's for about 8 months now with no problems until now. I broke a spoke on the NDS yesterday during a normal training ride and was wondering if anyone knows the length used in order to replace it? They are the Sapim CX-Ray spokes if that helps. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:16 am 
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The ERD is listed on the web site page for the rims.

Use spokecalc along with the hub dimensions to caculate the length. Or you can measure the broken spoke.

When you replace it, check the tension over all. NDS spokes break because they are undertensioned and flex. (usually at the elbow). If the DS tension is too low the NDS will be as well. 130kgf is ok for these rims.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:24 pm 
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When I received mine, I took them to a local wheel builder just to check the tension. All of the spokes were under tensioned, they brought them up to my needs. By they way they were impressed by the wheelset, especially for the $.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:45 am 
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I ordered a set from Kyle, who is super helpful. I got the 25mm wide with the hi-temp brake surface. I had them build a 38 for the front and a 50 for the rear. This time around, I had them built around the YuHub with straight pull CXrays. Tension was spot on and the hubs come apart just like the Dt Swiss 240's. I had to take the cassette body off and use some light DtSwiss freehub grease. The hubs so far spin quite nice, but there is quite a bit of snow here in New Hampshire so I won't be able to give them a real go for awhile.
The finish is quite nice for the money and they sent me what appears like the Black Prince brake pads.
I am a happy customer! :up: :up: :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:36 am 
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Oreoboreo has a point there.
For my second set I will also re measure the spoke tensions before my first ride.
As Eric says 130kgf should be ok and Farsports should recheck spoke tensions or their tools once more.
Beside that they have a flawless service and excellent products.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:23 am 
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@upside, what was the weight of your build? I was contemplating on a similar build from farsports too but with the ed-hubs with the 2:1 rear hub.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:24 pm 
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Soooo bad of me and posting on WW. I will weight them up on Wednesday.. I was rushing to install the Veloplugs. I was also concerned with fitting tires. Last year I had a set of 38's and the tires were a bitch to install and the only tires that would mounted reasonably was a Schwalbe. Not so with the new rims, the tires went on easily which I was hoping would happen.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:57 pm 
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Nismo4x4 wrote:
I've had my 50mmx24mm CC's for about 8 months now with no problems until now. I broke a spoke on the NDS yesterday during a normal training ride and was wondering if anyone knows the length used in order to replace it? They are the Sapim CX-Ray spokes if that helps. Thanks!


For the Ed hubs, this is my original response from sales rep at Farsports:
"About the spoke lengths is 258mm for front wheel,261mm for rear drive side and 265mm for rear disdrive side. And the spoke tension for front wheel is 90kfg and 135kfg for rear drive side."

IMPORTANT: my rear wheel was 2x/2x. So probably to be safe, do the calculations yourself. The Ed hub geometry can be found on BikeHubStore.com (the rear is UL190).

(Mine were undertensioned, which it sounds like might be an issue for you. I ended up completely retensioning the rear wheel, but you might be able to just add the spoke and bring things up to tension).


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Thanks everyone for this unbelievably informative post. I'm learning a lot from this. :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:29 pm 
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I have ordered two sets of wheels from Kyle in a timespan of 2 years and never had any problems.
The quickness of reply beat any other company I ever dealt with even outside of cycling.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:59 pm 
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What is the best hub option these days?

I've read this topic and the conclusion is that Edhub is the lightest but not the best one around?

These are the options

1470g(+/-30g) with EDhub(2:1 or ceramic bearings)
1515g(+/-30g) with Bitex hub
1525g(+/-30g) with Novatec hub
1515g(+/-30g) with Yuhub straight pull
1526g(+/-30g) with Chosen hub
1524g(+/-30g) with DT Swiss 240S hub

Ceramic bearings are a hype, not necessary for bikes
Edhub = Bitex

I hope someone can give me some good advice, thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:49 pm 
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wielracer wrote:
What is the best hub option these days?

I've read this topic and the conclusion is that Edhub is the lightest but not the best one around?

These are the options

1470g(+/-30g) with EDhub(2:1 or ceramic bearings)
1515g(+/-30g) with Bitex hub
1525g(+/-30g) with Novatec hub
1515g(+/-30g) with Yuhub straight pull
1526g(+/-30g) with Chosen hub
1524g(+/-30g) with DT Swiss 240S hub

Ceramic bearings are a hype, not necessary for bikes
Edhub = Bitex

I hope someone can give me some good advice, thanks


I only had experience with Novatec's and DT builds. I had to replace the bearings in Novatec's quite a lot of times due to crapy seals in them. Plus the Novatec Campy freebody was noisy as hell (not as CK, though). But its just me. Most of people will say good things about them.
Now I'm happy with the DT hub.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:32 pm 
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I've got EdHub ceramic with the 6 pawl freehub on both of my FarSports wheelsets. I have at least 4K miles on them between the two sets, and they have been fine and spin smooth.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:39 pm 
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So I have tried contacting Far Sports 3 times over the last 1 1/2 weeks with a few questions about their wheels and I can't get anyone to respond. What is the trick to get them to respond? I have used the "contact us" form on the website, I have emailed sales3@farsports.cn and I have emailed Mae at mae3116@hotmail.com. Are they on holiday or something???

Maybe someone here can answer my questions...
- Do they make a different rim for tubeless tyre vs. non-tubeless tyre or are they both the same?
- Can they make spoke count 18 front with a 20 or 24 rear wheelset?
- Do they ship your wheels with Titanium skews or do I need to purchase them separately?

I have purchased wheels from Yeoleo in the past and they always respond to my emails within 24 hours. Far Sports lack of response has me a bit concerned to purchase from them.

Cheers~


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