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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:33 pm 
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I'm of the thinking to get this bike below 7kg will cost me the price of a new cannondale bike weighting in at 6.3 out of the box.

Without stripping the whole bike down to confirm my suspicion, can somebody tell me the weight of this frameset please. That is frame and fork only. If I have the weight I can do the math.

Oh by the way, all I know this is a 2012 frame.
http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/jkoorts/library/focus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hope someone can help, cheers


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:52 pm 
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I read here the frame is 980gms and the fork is 340ish (for the Focus t4 fork), so it's not too bad

http://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/focus-cay ... w-258.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

this is the reference for the T4 fork on your model
http://road-bikes.findthebest.com/l/118 ... s-Cayo-3-0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/bikes- ... 03782.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

it might be hard to get it to 6.3kg though.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:59 am 
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Thanks lannes.

Didn't even know what model Focus this was.

Thanks for the info. Force22 should help a lot.

Cheers


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:50 pm 
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Lannes,

So just to make sure, my frameset is only +-350g heavier than the new cannondales?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:09 pm 
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jkoorts1973 wrote:
Lannes,

So just to make sure, my frameset is only +-350g heavier than the new cannondales?


Which model cannodales are you talking about ?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:20 pm 
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The 2013 SuperSix EVO


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:03 pm 
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jkoorts1973 wrote:
The 2013 SuperSix EVO


Depends on which model frameset in the Super Six EVO range

"The entry-level BallisTec Carbon frame uses a higher percentage of intermediate-modulus carbon fibres, the mid-grade BallisTec Hi-Mod uses more high and ultra-modulus carbon fibres to significantly drop the frame weight without sacrificing stiffness, and the range-topping BallisTec Nano uses nano-particle-infused resin to create a super-light – and super-expensive – frame. Claimed frame weights are sub-700g, 750g and 1,110g respectively."


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:06 pm 
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lannes wrote:
jkoorts1973 wrote:
The 2013 SuperSix EVO


Depends on which model frameset in the Super Six EVO range

"The entry-level BallisTec Carbon frame uses a higher percentage of intermediate-modulus carbon fibres, the mid-grade BallisTec Hi-Mod uses more high and ultra-modulus carbon fibres to significantly drop the frame weight without sacrificing stiffness, and the range-topping BallisTec Nano uses nano-particle-infused resin to create a super-light – and super-expensive – frame. Claimed frame weights are sub-700g, 750g and 1,110g respectively."


How were you planning to get your bike weight down, Sram Red buy itself won't do it ?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:22 am 
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using DT Swiss RRC425F / RRC525R.

Fine so then if I take your answer of 1100g for a certain cannondale then I'm only 200g heavier. Why then would I struggle to reach 6.3 if those cannons are bought from the shop at that weight? Basically to not stretch this thread longer: Why would I struggle if the maths are only different worst case by 200g?

Like this one:

Frame SuperSix EVO, BallisTec Hi-MOD Carbon, SPEED SAVE, PressFit BB30
Tubing Hi-MOD Carbon
Size 48/50/52/54/58/60/63
Fork SuperSix EVO, SPEED SAVE, BallisTec Hi-MOD full carbon, 1-1/8" to 1-1/4" steerer
Rear Shock
Gears
Crankset NEW Cannondale Hollowgram SiSL2, Cannondale OPI Spidering, 53-39, 11 Speed (compact 50/34 option)
Cassette
Front Derailleur Shimano Dura Ace 9000
Rear Derailleur Shimano Dura Ace 9000
Shifter Shimano Dura Ace 9000
Brakes Shimano Dura Ace 9000
Handlebar FSA K-Force Carbon Compact
Stem FSA OS-99 CSI
Seatpost FSA K-Force Carbon, 27.2x250mm
Saddle Fi'zi:k Antares, K:ium rails
Hubs Mavic Ksyrium SLS
Rims Mavic Ksyrium SLS WTS
Tyres Mavic Yksion, Griplink Front and Powerlink Rear, 700x23c, folding
Colours
Weight 6.1 Kg


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:21 pm 
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Wasn't being critical, just wondering how you were going to get down to 6.3 without going to a super light groupset and wheelset, which you have now advised.
By the time you spend the money on the SRAM Force 22, DT Swiss RRC425F / RRC525R , lighter crankset, maybe lighter bars/stem, seat , seatpost, pedals and tubular tires, it might be cheaper to go for a package like the Supersix Evo Hi-mod bike.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:07 pm 
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Hi lannes, knew you weren't being critical, but the thread just became irritating long :)

Anyway, you're right, thats why I'm stopping at 7.5kg. Should be enough. I got the DT Swiss wheels. Should make a world of difference overall on the up hills.

Thanks


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