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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:32 am 
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johnsaysthisnow wrote:
Would like to see PF30 instead of BB30.


As a mechanic who has to deal with the problematic PF30 system, I'm curious, why do you as a consumer want to see PF30 in an aluminum frame?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:08 pm 
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I think what you will see is more of the bleed over in tube shape from the EVO. That is what they have done so far, you can sit the two frames together and see what they have learned from the EVO shaping has translated to the CAAD10. I hope they do not change too much, because I like my CAAD10, but would like another one. We were looking into the EVOs for next season, but I will need to garner more sponsors for our race series to justify the added cost of getting carbon. If I can't, then I will still be on the CAAD10, solid platform.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:17 pm 
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HUMP DIESEL wrote:
you can sit the two frames together and see what they have learned from the EVO shaping has translated to the CAAD10.


I thought CAAD10 was designed first and they used that template for the Evo the year after.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:26 pm 
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I may be wrong, then.

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Doolop wrote:
johnsaysthisnow wrote:
Would like to see PF30 instead of BB30.


As a mechanic who has to deal with the problematic PF30 system, I'm curious, why do you as a consumer want to see PF30 in an aluminum frame?

I'd like to see a return to BSA.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:24 pm 
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Tinea Pedis wrote:
I'd like to see a return to BSA.

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Thats the beauty of just an alloy BB30 shell. If you want to run a BB30 crank you can and if you don't shove a BSA sleeve in it and its problem free.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:47 pm 
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Doolop wrote:
johnsaysthisnow wrote:
Would like to see PF30 instead of BB30.


As a mechanic who has to deal with the problematic PF30 system, I'm curious, why do you as a consumer want to see PF30 in an aluminum frame?


Is it that much more problematic than BB30?

Anyway, I'm thinking in terms of user serviceability. With BB30, anytime I need to replace bearings, I can either take it to a shop, or do it at home. As someone who genuinely likes doing work on my own/at home, dealing with BB30 incurs a higher penalty for failure - once the BB shell is far enough out of spec, that's it, frame is more or less toast. (And if Cdale finds out I did it, I'm likely out of a warranty, regardless of how thorough a job I may have done.) On the other hand, PF30 is easier to manufacture on Cannondales part, and easier for me to work on if it's way more likely that the cups will get trashed before the BB shell does. But, that's just me. I mean, external BSA would be best for home serviceability, but if the industry is pushing/consumers are buying 30 mm spindles, bigger BB shells, and press in bearings, I want the 'lesser of two evils.'


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:17 pm 
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Tinea Pedis wrote:
I'd like to see a return to BSA.
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Sjoerd wrote:
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:05 am 
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Ahillock wrote:
HUMP DIESEL wrote:
you can sit the two frames together and see what they have learned from the EVO shaping has translated to the CAAD10.


I thought CAAD10 was designed first and they used that template for the Evo the year after.


they designed both at the same time, but the Evo was held back a year to not steal all of the thunder from the caad10.


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