Just ordered Riots to replace my Sidi Zetas, I'll keep you all posted.

If I don't like them, they're going back for Giro Trans.

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I immediatly ditched my original Bont insoles, and used my Specialiuzed (red) ones instead, and evrything was super after. I had to cut a small portion of the Spesh soles to fit the Bont ones.

I switched my soles with Pearl izumi Pro 1:1 soles this year. Very nice and comfy, close to the Spesh BG reds.

I'm in my 3rd year with my A-1's, and I really like them now. I got used to how to adjust the fastening.
At first, I was tightening them too much, like a "usual" shoe, and got numb feet. When I loossened them, my feet moved a little too much (1-2 mm is too much) and hit the carbon "tub walls", and it was worst. Now I tighten them just enough so my feet don't "rock", and I can ride for hours without problems.

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I just received my Bont Zeros and came here for tips on molding them. Well after reading through 67 pages of posts, I have to say, this is without a doubt the single best resource out there for these shoes! Great info!

My Zeros seem to fit me pretty darn well right out of the box and I imagine will only get better after heat molding. So at the moment, I don't see any issues there. I will proceed to molding tonight and over the weekend.

Before I do that, however, I took some new KEO cleats and test-fitted them on the Zero's soles and they don't sit flush at all. I think there is a good chance that I will experience "rocking" when really pushing the pedals.

I know a few folks have talked about shimming the cleats in order to get a more secure interface between a KEO cleat and the Bont sole - does anyone have any photos of this so I can see how you did it? Thanks!

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Cut a strip of plastic about a half inch wide or less. Fit it under the cleat between the bolt holes. Tune to taste. I used some ABS I had... think it was .040" thick. That was for Shimano cleats.

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when I rode my bonts and had to use old Look Delta pedals for a while I put several small strips of rubbery-ish (lizzardskins) bar tape between the cleat and the sole and it worked beautifully.

I'll buy a pair of A-three

any idea on how to colour in White the blue lines on the straps?

Modifying the insoles:

In case anyone is interested, I used some cushioned handlebar tape to customize the arch support. It's light and does the job. The kind with an adhesive strip makes it easier. Once you get it right you can use goo to attach it permanently.

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So how malleable should the heel area become after heating Bont's up? I've got the new Vaypor+ and heat moulded them twice tonight. Everything feels fine except my heel which is slipping up in both shoes. I applied pressure to the area during the cool down phase but wondering if I got them hot enough to start with to actually mould properly. The carbon tub around the heel didn't seem to have much give at all even straight out of the oven.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can give some advice.

^ Cook them up for every minute of the recommendation. Really get them warm through and through. I don't recall feeling the carbon moving during the fitting, but they clearly had taken the molding change once they cooled.

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My orig-gen Vaypors have developed an annoying squeak after 3 solid years of happy riding - both right and left. I really have to tighten up the ratchet straps now - no more fast and loose for me. They're still 100% functional 100% good looking, of course. Anyone else have this happen?

I want to get another pair of Vaypors (with ratchet - the dial versions look horrible with the giant dials), but am tempted to try a pair of Spesh's S-Works for no other reason than plain old wanting to try something else.

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I'm surprised your heels are slipping. Mine literally"pop" out when I take my Vaypors off. Get a good oven thermometer and cook 'em right up to the limit. They should be too hot to hold when you first take them out and my shoes felt a little bit soft. Get them on immediately and really form that heel cup around your heel with your hand. Then make sure you let the shoes cool on your feet but don't go walking around in them! Stand in them on a firm surface even going one foot at a time. I only had to heat mine twice to get a really great fit using Superfeet blue insoles. Good luck.

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If the heels are the only area in question, just use a hairdryer to heat just that area. That's how I sorted mine out.

And I share the same experience as Twiggy. My heels literally 'pop' out when I take them off.

Hi Guys, 1st post for me so if I break any of the generally accepted protocols of forum posting it is unintentional! Honest...

Ok, I am considering some Bont Vapor's as I have had trouble with hot spots after about 40 miles with my Shimnao size 48's in wide fitting regardless of using Look style or spd cleats, the 40 mile mark shortend drastically with regaulr riding so I have ended up on flat pedals and trainers......

I alas have bunions which make my feet 120mm wide at the base of each big toe, however they are 282 mm long which Bont sized up as being a 46. But the 46 in wide fitting is too narrow (111mm).

I have 2 issues as a result. Do you think I would be able to stretch a size 49 (UK13) which in wide fitting has a width of 117mm, the extra 3mm to accomdate my feet around the base of my big toes?

If so the 49's are 30mm (3cm) longer tham my feet, would this potentially cause me a whole different set of problems?

I am seeing a podiatrist in the next few weeks and may be able to get specially built insoles, but I am hoping the flexibility of the Bont's heat molding may allow me to have pain free feet.

Bont themselves wanted £600 for a custom set which I cant afford.

Any help would be much appreaciated.

You can probably make room for your bunion by spot heating with a hair dryer and pushing that area out with a rounded hard object. No guarantee though.

Also, you will need more length than Bont suggests if your middle toes are longer than normal. Since their cleat holes are more rearward than most (at least they were) it might be a good idea to size up a little anyway.

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I'm really confused by Bonts sizing. After measuring my feet 3 times I got a length of 261mm. Going by their guide I should have bought size 42,but a cheap pair of 42.5 came up so I bought them to try.

First try on of the shoes my big toe was right up against the end of the shoe. In theory I should have had 7mm of space! I tried them on a 1 hour ride and they were just plain uncomfortable. My toes were numb at the end of the hour. Not good. I'm now selling them on as I doubt they'd be big enough even after molding.

Has everyone else had better results going by the size guide?

Did the size guide carefully and came up with a 44 shoe. Thought that was small so ordered a 44.5 based on that and the sellers advice. Shoes ended up just barely long enough which I didn't like so I got some 45's which are perfect for me. I also wear a 45 in Sidi, Carnac, and Time shoes for reference. My experience says take the size wizard result and add one full size.

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