Pain in outer kneecap?
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Anyone experienced this? I felt a surge of pain in my left outer kneecap at the end of my last long distance ride. I'd like to know what are the most common causes for this symptom? saddle positioning? bad form when pedaling? I thinkI've got an idea, but would like to hear from someone who's got experience with this.
Usually saddle position and/or longer/harder ride than what your body is trained for.
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As above I reckon your seat post or saddle may have slipped. I had a similar problem not two weeks ago where toward the end of a long ride my knee started to hurt, I later discovered my saddle had cracked during the ride subsequently lowering my position on the bike by a few mm putting my knee out.
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Firstly - I'm no doctor.
That said I had a very similar sounding problem after 3 or so hours of riding. I went to a physio and was cured in one visit. It was a tight IT band that runs from the outside of my hip to the outside of my knee. Where the IT band connects back to the bone (at the knee) it lies on top of another small ligament and if the IT band is too tight it rubs against the ligament and after a period of time inflames and becomes very painful.
I was given a few stretches to do and told unless it continues no need to and 3 years on it's never come back.
That said I had a very similar sounding problem after 3 or so hours of riding. I went to a physio and was cured in one visit. It was a tight IT band that runs from the outside of my hip to the outside of my knee. Where the IT band connects back to the bone (at the knee) it lies on top of another small ligament and if the IT band is too tight it rubs against the ligament and after a period of time inflames and becomes very painful.
I was given a few stretches to do and told unless it continues no need to and 3 years on it's never come back.
Yes I had the IT band issue when I was a runner, but I thing the treatment worked back then. It might have been saddle positioning. This will teach me never to trust fitting rules too much, they are made for a person that doesn't exist after all.
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s4life, you mentioned "fitting rules" - did you set your bike's saddle height and other contact point locations based off of recommendations on the internet, or some online calculator?
Or did you go and get a proper fitting from a recommended professional in your area?
Or did you go and get a proper fitting from a recommended professional in your area?
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prendrefeu wrote:s4life, you mentioned "fitting rules" - did you set your bike's saddle height and other contact point locations based off of recommendations on the internet, or some online calculator?
Or did you go and get a proper fitting from a recommended professional in your area?
I did both, but the fitting is as good as the person doing the fitting -- and he wasn't too bright -- so I didn't get much better advice than the internet. I will try again with someone more qualified.
Likely what your experiencing is Patello-Femoral Pain Syndrome. There can be a variety of causes but the one cause you can actually do something about is too much tightness in the lateral quad group including IT band and not enough strength in the Vastus Medialis.
Read this thread - it will give you an idea of what is going on and how to fix it. Even if the diagnosis is wrong, all this stuff is good for you:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11620&hilit=patello+femoral
As to bike fit, as long as it is half decent it shouldn't be an issue.
Read this thread - it will give you an idea of what is going on and how to fix it. Even if the diagnosis is wrong, all this stuff is good for you:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11620&hilit=patello+femoral
As to bike fit, as long as it is half decent it shouldn't be an issue.
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Yep, cycling works the outer quads (etc) more than the inner, leading to the outer getting stronger and tighter.
As "Gibbo" says, PTF syndrome treatment should give you plenty of tips for stretches are massaging.
As well as working the outer quads, IT band and glutes, it's also handy to massage the tensor fascia latae (oooh, i like the fancy version of spelling that ), and even the tibialis anterior.
As "Gibbo" says, PTF syndrome treatment should give you plenty of tips for stretches are massaging.
As well as working the outer quads, IT band and glutes, it's also handy to massage the tensor fascia latae (oooh, i like the fancy version of spelling that ), and even the tibialis anterior.
How's ya knee? That's a good idea about using an electrode device to strengthen the medialis.Mr.Gib wrote:
Read this thread - it will give you an idea of what is going on and how to fix it. Even if the diagnosis is wrong, all this stuff is good for you:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11620&hilit=patello+femoral
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You might've seen me posting this before, but I've had great results for my chondromalacia (mine was/is pain just below the knee cap) by doing straight leg raises (with very light weight) to tone the middle quads, which helps the cap track "quicker".
Thanks for the link, but you know how's the internet.. I might indeed thinking I have femur cancer or something after I am done reading everything.. LOL. I'll start doing after-workout stretches.. I feel my IT bands problems from when I was a runner are coming back. Fitting feels nice and easy right now. no numbness anywhere even after 50 miles, just the slight pain sometimes -- more so when I do climbing.
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Mr.Gib wrote:Likely what your experiencing is Patello-Femoral Pain Syndrome. There can be a variety of causes but the one cause you can actually do something about is too much tightness in the lateral quad group including IT band and not enough strength in the Vastus Medialis.
Read this thread - it will give you an idea of what is going on and how to fix it. Even if the diagnosis is wrong, all this stuff is good for you:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11620&hilit=patello+femoral
As to bike fit, as long as it is half decent it shouldn't be an issue.
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I've had this before as well, my issue was due to (poor) adjustment of my cleat. Cleat/saddle/seatpost adjustment will all likely result in a similar issue in which you are incorrectly stretching/compressing ligaments in your knees and causing pain.