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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:50 am 
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I'm surprised this wheelset hasn't gotten more attention. Apparently it's a true aero 41mm wheelset, decent width at 26mm, and 1185g!!!!! for a carbon clincher!!

http://fairwheelbikes.com/c/forums/topi ... neak-peek/

http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-53430311.html


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:08 am 
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:)

It has gotten plenty of attention already.
Thread started August 16th: viewtopic.php?f=113&t=118161
Photo Requests for Eurobike: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=117908

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:36 pm 
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it's too bad they have weight limits.. no were near the 110kg limit, but close enough to the models with 85kg limit to choose another brand.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:07 pm 
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At 65kg I am glad to see equipment with weight limits. I don't need stuff that's built to handle 200kg riders.

Interesting that the rims are 395g. The narrow FarSports 50mm carbon clincher rims I have came in at 406 and 410g.
Much of the weight savings vs my 1320g wheels is in the hubs.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:08 pm 
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Yeah, my farsports 38 mm clinchers with extradite hubs are 1176 g with veloplugs. Wonder what the cost difference is?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:33 pm 
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I do love my FarSports clinchers. A lot.

That being said: suppose the Tune clinchers have the new aero shape (they are certainly wider... which is the trend). On the open-mold side of things, the best aero shape/clincher/weight that we're seeing may be coming from Light-Bicycle: 45mm, 450g (which appears to be much like a ZIPP FC profile). Rough estimate of a 20/24 build with those, using Tune Hubs and CX-Ray, all alloy nipples but no veloplugs since it's tubeless ready:
$570+85shipping for the whole wheelset rims from Light-Bicycle, 900g (estimated) (I couldn't find a price on the rims alone, so assume buy the wheelset, rebuild with rims)
$300 Mig 45 front, 50g
$410 Mag 170 rear, 170g
$129.80 for 44 black cx-ray spokes from BHS, 198g
$15.84 for 44 12mm 14G black alloy nipples, 13.64g

You're looking at a total of $1510.64 for a 1331.64g wheelset. You could even make it a lot more budget-conscious if you're willing to give up 40g by switching to a combo of BHS hubs, in the end saving you $560 off the cost and bringing the weight up to 1370g. So then it's $1010 for 1370g, and you even have a whole extra set of hubs, nipples and spokes to build another wheel with - coming off of the original Light-Bicycle purchase). Imagine however the cost of the Light-Bicycle rims are $270, which would be an accurate guess based off of other rim-only estimates from their competitors. Then we're at $710 for 1370g. Which is really great.

The comparison is assuming the Tune profile is really aero, not just deep, since it apparently has width. At the moment there is no cost announced for the Tune wheelset, but we can assume it's well over $1500USD. Well, well over. It might be in the $3000 range, really. Those rims must be really nice?

On the other hand, the Tune weighs less, and that's what is important here. :twisted:

This isn't an apples-to-oranges comparison, and certainly it's just different flavors of apples and there is certainly really really high quality with Tune products... but, on the other hand, this post here does point out a serious issue going on in the industry and not all of us are affluent.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:45 pm 
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prendrefeu wrote:
I do love my FarSports clinchers. A lot.

That being said: suppose the Tune clinchers have the new aero shape (they are certainly wider... which is the trend). On the open-mold side of things, the best aero shape/clincher/weight that we're seeing may be coming from Light-Bicycle: 45mm, 450g (which appears to be much like a ZIPP FC profile). Rough estimate of a 20/24 build with those, using Tune Hubs and CX-Ray, all alloy nipples but no veloplugs since it's tubeless ready:
$570+85shipping for the whole wheelset rims from Light-Bicycle, 900g (estimated) (I couldn't find a price on the rims alone, so assume buy the wheelset, rebuild with rims)
$300 Mig 45 front, 50g
$410 Mag 170 rear, 170g
$129.80 for 44 black cx-ray spokes from BHS, 198g
$15.84 for 44 12mm 14G black alloy nipples, 13.64g

You're looking at a total of $1510.64 for a 1331.64g wheelset. You could even make it a lot more budget-conscious if you're willing to give up 40g by switching to a combo of BHS hubs, in the end saving you $560 off the cost and bringing the weight up to 1370g. So then it's $1010 for 1370g, and you even have a whole extra set of hubs, nipples and spokes to build another wheel with - coming off of the original Light-Bicycle purchase). Imagine however the cost of the Light-Bicycle rims are $270, which would be an accurate guess based off of other rim-only estimates from their competitors. Then we're at $710 for 1370g. Which is really great.

The comparison is assuming the Tune profile is really aero, not just deep, since it apparently has width. At the moment there is no cost announced for the Tune wheelset, but we can assume it's well over $1500USD. Well, well over. It might be in the $3000 range, really. Those rims must be really nice?

On the other hand, the Tune weighs less, and that's what is important here. :twisted:

This isn't an apples-to-oranges comparison, and certainly it's just different flavors of apples and there is certainly really really high quality with Tune products... but, on the other hand, this post here does point out a serious issue going on in the industry and not all of us are affluent.


Perfectly spoken.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:21 am 
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The light-bicycle 45mm, wide u-shaped rim is listed at $170 USD each, on their website.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:43 am 
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So $240/pair... $680 for 1370g <--- total mess up on that :lol:

Corrected: $340/pair, $780 for 1370g.

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$340 a pair, hope your math's is better than that Prend.


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:lol: :lol:

Yeah... my math is better than that! hahaha

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:51 pm 
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This discussion parallels my thoughts exactly. I'm more than happy with the 38mm-41mm depth, so would be willing to stay with the latest Farsports wider aero rims mated to Tune hubs and come in pretty close to 1200 grams total.

Little doubt in my mind that the Tune wheelsets will retail over $2500....

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:50 am 
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Some more info on the wheelsets!

http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/09/05/eb1 ... eels-more/


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