Answering a few questions in a single post, so bear with me here
It would better to have the vendor based in the EU, ideally the UK.
I did look into vendors in the UK and EU, but a few issues arose.
One of them was the general lack of enthusiasm when I asked about their logistics capabilities (ie, shipping to individuals and individuals paying), turn around times, and pricing (minimums especially). Then there was the feedback I've been hearing from people. Castelli, for example, can do the logistics thing... but they have minimums even with variations, teams that use them are still running into sizing issues, the feedback on their durability has been mixed, and nearly everyone complained about the customer service, ordering process and production-time-to-delivery. Similar stories arose with other vendors.
The other was what the survey revealed the overwhelming majority of buyers would actually be in the United States. Here's the breakdown:
Australia - 4
Austria - 1
Belgium - 1
Bulgaria - 1
Canada - 5
Czech Republic - 1
England/UK - 5
Finland - 3
Ireland - 2
Japan - 1
Norway - 2
Philippines - 1
Poland - 1
Portugal - 1
Russia - 1
Sweden - 2
The Netherlands - 2
USA - 38
These are just out of 72 respondents to the survey, not subtracting the 5 that declared 'deal break' off the design. It is not a guarantee that these are the final numbers, they are estimates as we may even get more orders when the store actually opens. However these are useful for the vendor to know as a guess of where they will be shipping to. Some of you may be wearing jerseys so unique you'll be the only one in your entire country with it!! That's pretty awesome.
If I can convince them to stuff an order in to a "flat rate envelope" then shipping will be really affordable.
But that might be harder for Prend to organise.
wld be really helpful if the sizing could be benchmarked against widely used brands. So for example if a couple of people can try on a couple of sizes and comment on how it comes up vs main brands.
happy to be a sizing guinea pig if we do this
I'll see what I can do to accommodate this. It will be difficult, however, as vendors often have their 'fit kits' spread out throughout the country/world with people trying them on, so when you call up to request certain sizes they may not have that actual size available at the time you're requesting it. It's really often a matter of luck to get exactly what you want. Some vendors will be able to send an entire fit kit (all sizes, full range), but will charge a shipping fee and a deposit of $500 (or more) to guarantee return.
That said, Jakroo does have very, very detailed sizing guides: it includes measurements of every detail you may want to know, and you can then compare this to your own body or whatever clothes you currently have in your own wardrobe.
No matter where the vendor is based there will be people on the other side of the pond who will have to deal with more expensive shipping. If the cost is high and there are several people who live close by, they can agree and make one order for all of them or use a consolidation/relay service (like shipito.com) and then distribute locally.
Slyboots definitely hit the nail on the head here! Totally correct analysis. No matter where we end up producing these, shipping will be an issue for someone somewhere.
I'll send the list of countries to the vendor to get approximate shipping estimates (based off of 1-jersey 1-bib/short) to each country that was listed through the survey. If I get those estimates I can then post them up here and you (plural) can then decide whether you (individual) want to organize yourselves by area/country. If some of you go that route I can then post the main 'contact person' for the area/country into the first post on this thread and you can work it out from there. I am hoping/guessing that shipping will actually be fairly affordable and quick if they go with USPS, so the individual shipping option may be the most likely scenario. I will have an update as soon as I learn more.
Prend, Is the plan to order the jersey in the slim cut? Looks like the tour jersey has two cut options and the only review I've found online for jakroo kits suggests the normal cut leaves a lot of room in the chest.
The Giro level jersey has two cuts: "race" and "pro" (race being the tighter cut apparently)
The Tour level jersey currently has one cut, but speaking with the contact at Jakroo last week it appears that they are transitioning to a Tour-level jersey with multiple fit variations (club/pro/race ?? slim??)... I'm not sure how their internal shifting of pattern aligns with our order, but I will try to address your concerns today.
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