Xiamen Far Sports Experiences
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bikewithnoname
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Also looking forward to petepeterson’s review. I’ve got some 24mm tubs currently clearing customs...
"We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities." Oscar Wilde
50mm deep 25mm wide carbon clincher (18mm inside tire bead width) with their cheapest hubs. Not the "high-temp" resin. Basalt brake track.
11-speed compatible. I'm using DA 9000 calipers and levers for my brakes. I weigh 150 pounds with gear.
I've got 500 kilometers so far. Last ride had about 2000 feet of elevation gain.
Using blue pads provided with wheels.
First "product review" so bear with me...decided to purchase on information here (this thread, throughout forum).
Came out of the box true, didn't check spoke tension. They did send me the wrong freehub body at first (10-speed rather than 11-speed), but two emails later and they expressed shipped me the new freehub no charge to me at all.
Braking in the dry seems reasonable. Not as secure as aluminum (especially not Exalith), but tolerable and I've never felt "unsafe." Modulation does not approach aluminum, and I definitely have to grab more lever to get the same "feel" but again, I've never felt that I wasn't going to be able to stop exactly when or where I wanted to. I'm not an experienced descender at all, and I live in Tulsa, which is rolling, but doesn't have crazy California/Colorado style descents. I have a bit of a pulse in the front wheel, but it's fading and the rim is smooth and flat. Suspect it might be the pads, and getting less as the pads are breaking in. Have ridden them briefly in the rain, but I didn't have to do that much braking. What I did do didn't stand out to me as being terrible (unlike some Williams carbon clinchers I had about three years ago with Swiss Stop yellow pads).
Stiffness seems good. No brake rub when standing. I'm not Andre Griepel or any other sprinter so who knows. What I can say is that on some downhills and the occasional switchback, the tracking is good, don't really have to consider the steering. I know that's a function of frame, fork, geometry, etc, but different wheels do feel different I think. Maybe hub and spoke design differences. I can say that they feel at least generally the same as Mavic Ksyrium SLRs I had from a stiffness perspective. I am using Shimano skewers so maybe that helps.
I use Vittoria EVO CX 23mm tires that measure out to about 25mm with 100psi front and rear. I used the same tires on some wheels that I have that use Velocity A23s (so 17mm inside bead if I recall), and they feel similar with similar pressure. These Farsports wheels are stiffer than the wheels with the Velocity rims. Ride quality with the same pressures, tires, and bike otherwise feels similar.
Aero? Who knows? I do catch my heavier friends on some downhills, headwinds (which it seems like we always have in Tulsa) do seem easier, hold speed better...I think, but could just be new gear effect (though honestly I wasn't expecting anything, but the mind is so easy to trick...)
In summary, for the price I am very satisfied with my purchase. If I paid more, I'd probably still be satisfied. Construction quality honestly seems decent, they ride as well as any other wheel I've owned (though I have never ridden any ZIPP or say ENVE based wheels). Customer service has been surprisingly outstanding. On that front, I was definitely not expecting much. When I got the wrong freehub, I thought for sure I was SOL. So, really if you can afford the wheels and are concerned, I would say that I have had a positive experience and would buy again if I needed another set of wheels.
11-speed compatible. I'm using DA 9000 calipers and levers for my brakes. I weigh 150 pounds with gear.
I've got 500 kilometers so far. Last ride had about 2000 feet of elevation gain.
Using blue pads provided with wheels.
First "product review" so bear with me...decided to purchase on information here (this thread, throughout forum).
Came out of the box true, didn't check spoke tension. They did send me the wrong freehub body at first (10-speed rather than 11-speed), but two emails later and they expressed shipped me the new freehub no charge to me at all.
Braking in the dry seems reasonable. Not as secure as aluminum (especially not Exalith), but tolerable and I've never felt "unsafe." Modulation does not approach aluminum, and I definitely have to grab more lever to get the same "feel" but again, I've never felt that I wasn't going to be able to stop exactly when or where I wanted to. I'm not an experienced descender at all, and I live in Tulsa, which is rolling, but doesn't have crazy California/Colorado style descents. I have a bit of a pulse in the front wheel, but it's fading and the rim is smooth and flat. Suspect it might be the pads, and getting less as the pads are breaking in. Have ridden them briefly in the rain, but I didn't have to do that much braking. What I did do didn't stand out to me as being terrible (unlike some Williams carbon clinchers I had about three years ago with Swiss Stop yellow pads).
Stiffness seems good. No brake rub when standing. I'm not Andre Griepel or any other sprinter so who knows. What I can say is that on some downhills and the occasional switchback, the tracking is good, don't really have to consider the steering. I know that's a function of frame, fork, geometry, etc, but different wheels do feel different I think. Maybe hub and spoke design differences. I can say that they feel at least generally the same as Mavic Ksyrium SLRs I had from a stiffness perspective. I am using Shimano skewers so maybe that helps.
I use Vittoria EVO CX 23mm tires that measure out to about 25mm with 100psi front and rear. I used the same tires on some wheels that I have that use Velocity A23s (so 17mm inside bead if I recall), and they feel similar with similar pressure. These Farsports wheels are stiffer than the wheels with the Velocity rims. Ride quality with the same pressures, tires, and bike otherwise feels similar.
Aero? Who knows? I do catch my heavier friends on some downhills, headwinds (which it seems like we always have in Tulsa) do seem easier, hold speed better...I think, but could just be new gear effect (though honestly I wasn't expecting anything, but the mind is so easy to trick...)
In summary, for the price I am very satisfied with my purchase. If I paid more, I'd probably still be satisfied. Construction quality honestly seems decent, they ride as well as any other wheel I've owned (though I have never ridden any ZIPP or say ENVE based wheels). Customer service has been surprisingly outstanding. On that front, I was definitely not expecting much. When I got the wrong freehub, I thought for sure I was SOL. So, really if you can afford the wheels and are concerned, I would say that I have had a positive experience and would buy again if I needed another set of wheels.
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m4k1 wrote:really interested in the 20mm and 24mm wheels! are there any pictures of bikes set up with them?
Search is your friend:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=118213&hilit=farsports+24mm#p1009100
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=92214#p962189
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rowdysluggins
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Broke a spoke today on the front of my 38mm with edhub. Anyone happen to know the length I need?
I've been riding them now for about 3K miles, and I made it home (another 40 miles), by loosening my front brake.
I'm not thrilled about it, but on the other hand, I've had this happen on my Reynolds 32ULs too.
I've been riding them now for about 3K miles, and I made it home (another 40 miles), by loosening my front brake.
I'm not thrilled about it, but on the other hand, I've had this happen on my Reynolds 32ULs too.
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prendrefeu
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From an e-mail FarSports sent me a while back on the 38's with ED Hubs:
--Front: 270mm
--Rear: 266mm(NDS)
272mm(DS)
--Front: 270mm
--Rear: 266mm(NDS)
272mm(DS)
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rowdysluggins
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Thanks prendrefeu!
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bikewithnoname
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Picked up my 24mm carbon tubs today. Have to say the purchasing experience was very smooth and shipping very quick (until it hit UK customs who took their sweet time to process them), wheels were well packaged and true.
Haven’t had time to glue up any tyres yet but was very pleased with the weight coming in 410gm Front, 559gm rear. That’s a 969gm carbon wheelset for under £500.
The proof is in the riding though so I need to get some tyres stuck on soon!
Haven’t had time to glue up any tyres yet but was very pleased with the weight coming in 410gm Front, 559gm rear. That’s a 969gm carbon wheelset for under £500.
The proof is in the riding though so I need to get some tyres stuck on soon!
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"We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities." Oscar Wilde
Can you provide a link to the specific set that you purchased?bikewithnoname wrote:Picked up my 24mm carbon tubs today. Have to say the purchasing experience was very smooth and shipping very quick (until it hit UK customs who took their sweet time to process them), wheels were well packaged and true.
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bikewithnoname
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"We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities." Oscar Wilde
MNX1024 wrote:Anybody purchased their 38MM deep 25MM wide U-shape wheels yet? Any impressions and weight from those who have bought it?
I was looking at these for a road disc bike too (those are the ones without braking surface, right?) and would love to hear any impressions.
I have a set of the 24mm-wide 50mm clinchers and have been happy with them. They needed a bit of work after a bit (retruing, better tension), but nothing completely unexpected. It was a good ordering experience, so I would definitely consider ordering from then again.
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