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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:58 pm 
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Rapha is the named clothing sponsor but they do not make the pro team kit... just the trendy nonsense for the merchant bankers!
Rapha do not have a sewing facility at all.

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Rapha designs their product and outsources the manufacturing. Just like Specialized, Cannondale, Apple, etc etc etc. This is well documented and not something they hide.

http://www.rapha.cc/moa-sport

I don't get all the unjustified Rapha hate. It's stupid.


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maquisard wrote:
Rapha is the named clothing sponsor but they do not make the pro team kit... just the trendy nonsense for the merchant bankers!


What a load of BS... I much prefer my Rapha stuff to the pseudo-tech Assos I have.


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https://twitter.com/EteZabel/status/192326162335268866

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Oh lord, my intent was never to get the rapha conversation going again. More just to see if Moa offers it to the outside world.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:44 pm 
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Who is Denis?

added: found it.

P.S. Glad to see Zabel come clean. Strange, but I find myself much more interesting in doping stories than actual race results this year: we really need to get away from the "winning is everything" mentality which makes it so necessary.

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Oh lord, my intent was never to get the rapha conversation going again. More just to see if Moa offers it to the outside world.
MOA is rather big. Made the Adidas for Sky too.

Rapha and Assos? Apples and oranges.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:37 pm 
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P.S. Glad to see Zabel come clean. Strange, but I find myself much more interesting in doping stories than actual race results this year: we really need to get away from the "winning is everything" mentality which makes it so necessary.


Unfortunately winning and supporting winners is everything when your sport is your job.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:34 pm 
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Rapha and Assos? Apples and oranges.



Like Moa there is similar company in Slovenia where made some products for Assos


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:09 pm 
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djconnel wrote:

P.S. Glad to see Zabel come clean. Strange, but I find myself much more interesting in doping stories than actual race results this year: we really need to get away from the "winning is everything" mentality which makes it so necessary.


Unfortunately winning and supporting winners is everything when your sport is your job.


That will become abundantly clear for anyone who has the misfortune to ride for Oleg Tinkov next year. He basically took a dump on Saxo Bank for racing their balls off, but not winning.


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Excellent example: Contador scored big positive points in my mind from the way he rode this year. The quality of the race is the thing, not who wins it, and Contador made the race.

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Agreed.

Froome was just way too strong, but that didn't stop Saxo from lighting up the race to try and achieve something. Maybe Contador underestimated Froome as a result of the Vuelta? Saxo and Movistar made the GC race at least somewhat interesting, they at least forced Froome to have to defend himself.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:22 am 
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stella-azzurra wrote:
djconnel wrote:

P.S. Glad to see Zabel come clean. Strange, but I find myself much more interesting in doping stories than actual race results this year: we really need to get away from the "winning is everything" mentality which makes it so necessary.


Unfortunately winning and supporting winners is everything when your sport is your job.


That will become abundantly clear for anyone who has the misfortune to ride for Oleg Tinkov next year. He basically took a dump on Saxo Bank for racing their balls off, but not winning.


Have you read my comment on that slimy business man Oleg Tinkoff?

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IMO, it wasn't Saxo and Contador that made the race lively, well may be one attempt on stage 13 (x-wind). Apart from some minor descents attack that never stick, Contador was nowhere to be found on the stages that really count (Ax3, Ventoux, Semnoz). Instead, it was Quintana, Costa, Valverde and Rodriguez who were all up there. Valverde never quit trying and managed to get back to 8th GC despite losing almost 10 minutes at one point.

Movistar was Sky-like driving the pace on many stages to get their guy on the podium, and they succeed. Saxo just didn't have the legs this year. I like the fact that they tried, but I see more effort from other teams. Also, good riddance Oleg. The guy has no respect for cycling.

I think Froome did over-estimate Contador a little bit, constantly checking on him and all that. Now the floodgate is open, the Spanish know they can beat Contador, which is nice because we will see many more attacks for the races to come.


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Awesome to see Teklehaimanot take his first pro victory! :podium:

More over at Pez
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/page/late ... ?id=105212" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Prueba Villafranca-Ordiziako Klasika Result:
1. Daniel Teklehaimanot (Eri) Orica Greenedge in 3:55:18
2. Ángel Madrazo (Spa) Movistar at 0:02
3. David Arroyo (Spa) Caja Rural-Seguros RGA at 0:08
4. Wesley Sulzberger (Aus) Orica Greenedge
5. Jesus Herrada (Spa) Movistar
6. Alessandro De Marchi (Ita) Cannondale
7. Gorka Verdugo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
8. Nicolas Edet (Fra) Cofidis
9. Marcos Garcia (Spa) Caja Rural-Seguros RGA at 0:15
10. Egoitz García (Spa) Cofidis at 0:53.


A solid ride. Good footage in that link. Another rider that helps give OGE such a hard time picking their TTT squads I'm sure.


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