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pastronef - I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not....
How is it a mess? Who cares about '98 and anyone actually surprised someone on POE. I get that a full confession really complicates things but man those partial admissions are so weak. Barely a notch up from denial. As inrng puts it: "Others will be named and if you’re surprised at the revelations then you probably haven’t been following cycling for long enough."
I read a cool (if true) comment on inrng that Laurens Ten Dam is/was doing the post tour crit rounds in his chev camper van. Pro cycling is hilarious.
How is it a mess? Who cares about '98 and anyone actually surprised someone on POE. I get that a full confession really complicates things but man those partial admissions are so weak. Barely a notch up from denial. As inrng puts it: "Others will be named and if you’re surprised at the revelations then you probably haven’t been following cycling for long enough."
I read a cool (if true) comment on inrng that Laurens Ten Dam is/was doing the post tour crit rounds in his chev camper van. Pro cycling is hilarious.
petepeterson wrote:pastronef - I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not....
sorry, I thought about writing "i am not sarcastic" while posting
no, it's not sarcastic. his positive has not been confirmed, he's just on the suspicious list, so, even if we know he did it, he should've kept his mouth shut for a little longer, and maybe the media would have just cared about the confirmed positives
In my opinion, the whole "clearing of conscience" is a bunch of malarky. Rest assured, none of these guys... NONE of them... feel they really did anything wrong. This is key, and frankly I don't fault them for it. It's why I've always said never confess, no matter what the evidence says. For what purpose?
Unless, of course, you get a good book deal. Oh wait... O'Grady's book comes out when?
Unless, of course, you get a good book deal. Oh wait... O'Grady's book comes out when?
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I think when I comment in this thread from now on I will presume everyone has done/is doing something and discuss the "pro's" on that basis.
stella-azzurra wrote:LeMond was supportive of Froome, but noted he had a "weird position" on the bike
"There is a difference between a climber like Hinault for example, and Froome speeding away like that," the 52-year-old explained. "People look at technology now, wattage, VO2max and nobody is equal physically. You can't compare it to before. I don't like it when people ask me questions like that and I want to believe in what I'm seeing. There can be spectacular performances without doping."
--cyclingnews
Check out Lemond occupying his very own personal space:
stella-azzurra wrote:
Ja, you can have spectacular performances without doping. In the past the sport was less developed. A few who either saw the light and slipped through, or by sheer chance, were able to dominate the competition [eg, Merckx]. Many pro riders were also quite stupid. There are still a few today.
If we put a Merckx in the peloton today I don't believe he would stand out in the Cannibalistic fashion like he did.
7x Forum Racing Ban Champion.
That "I want to believe" poster may be close to the truth, Froome CAN levitate! :-
http://twitter.com/jamiegough/status/36 ... 24/photo/1
http://twitter.com/jamiegough/status/36 ... 24/photo/1
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"I'm not a real doctor; But I am a real worm; I am an actual worm." - TMBG
Horze wrote:If we put a Merckx in the peloton today I don't believe he would stand out in the Cannibalistic fashion like he did.
Let's be clear... Clean or dirty, the champions all have one thing in common: they all work their tails off and they all know how to suffer on the bike.
Wait, that's two things.
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." William Munny
Armstrong never really looked like he was suffering, straight off a 7w/kg climb and into an interview with nary a bead of sweat on his brow.
As for the senate enquiry, what a total waste of french taxpayers' money. Old news that does nothing but sully the waters for today's predominantly hard working and clean riders.
As for the senate enquiry, what a total waste of french taxpayers' money. Old news that does nothing but sully the waters for today's predominantly hard working and clean riders.
It strikes me that teams looking for contract extensions or new partners every year is a very amateurish way to operate. Multi year tie ins are surely needed to ensure stability and to allow the sort of investment and planning that would enable an outfit to take the challenge to the likes of Sky.
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