Sub 7.3 kg/6.4 kg 29'er project buildthread finished pic p 6

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djm
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Pent utført bygg! :-D

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by tompho

Very good job.

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anquetil
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by anquetil

Great build, but frame is to big for you.

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Martin.F
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by Martin.F

Thanks, djm and tompho.

anquetil: I know, so I changed it to a smaller one. Besides being a better fit, it saved me 15 gms or so :beerchug:

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by damond

Any updates about the build Martin?

How much did it weight it the Racing Ralph's on the Sid fork?

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by Drk0n0s

Perfect Ride!
Are there any photos of the bike with the rigid?

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Martin.F
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by Martin.F

No updates on the build yet. The buildlist now is as follows:

Frame: Vipera sans clearcoat - 1174g
Fork: Sid WC XX - 1446g
Headset: Frankenset - 69g
Expanders + spacers + topcap: FSA - 55g
Handlebar: AX poseidon 620mm - 94g
Grips: Extralite ultragrips - 15g
Stem: Extralite UL3 - 86g
Seat/post: Berk composites - 142g
Seatpostclamp: Procraft - 10g
Shifters: Sec gripshifts (tuned) - 94g
Front derailleur: D-A 7900 with Carbon-ti X-pull - 81g
Rear derailleur: Sram XX with Roth Shek pulleys - 165g
Cables and housings: Powercordz - 32g
Chain: Kmc - 238g
Cassette: Sram XX - 187g
Crankset: Sram XX incl sram BB30 - 745g
Pedals: Shimano XTR - 310g
Brakes: Formula r1 racing with KCNC 160mm front/rear - 517g
Wheels: Stans notubes gold - 1326g
QR: Ebay titanium/carbon - 44g
Tubes: Yellow tape + American classic valves - 14g
Sealant: Joe's - 70g
Tires: Maxxlite 29 - 694g

Adding up to a total of 7609g suspended and 6694g rigid.

Changes I had to make:
Expander: I stripped the bolt, and the stem could not hold on tight enough to keep the headset properly in place. I had a heavy FSA expander laying around
Crankset: I could not get the Lightning to fit properly, so I bought an XX
Wheels: Had some problems with the Extralite/crest, so bought Race gold
Pedals: Eggbeater 4ti's developed a LOT of play after many years of service, swapped for XTR


Changes to come.
New wheels. Hopefully something just below 1300gms and with carbon rims to make them stiffer: -30g
New pedals: I now work in a shop that sells eggbeaters, so I'm buying some 2's and some aftermarket ti spindles: -98g
Maybe new chainrings: Tune for sram XX: -22g
New expander: Extralite ultrastar + lightweight carbon topcap: -37g

Still heavier than what I started with due to heaaavy crankset, but just below 7.5kg suspended and just above 6.5 rigid. I've also looked around to find the Apro-tek MC709ca to save 200gms :O

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by Mads Kock

Hey Martin - you need to let us see your smaller frame :-)

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Martin.F
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by Martin.F

This bike went through a reverse diet after some failed and misfit parts.

First I couldn't get the crankset to work, so I went from 561g Lightning to 745g Sram XX - a 184g gain
Then my trusty old 4ti's died on me after several rebuilds, so I went from 168g 4ti to 306g XTR - a 138g gain
Then I had some problems with the FRM expander and the non-bolted topcap, so I went from 4g+3g = 7g to 55g FSA expander + spacer - a 48g gain

So my bike was at a total of 7605g for a while, but now it's time to update it. This is what it looks like right now

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IMG_6257 by Martin.F., on Flickr

I bought a new bolt and topcap for the FRM expander, and I'm going to buy a slam that stem topcap or a veloflyte one + cut the steer tube a bit more. New expander weight is 21g + 7g spacers. Trimming the topcap + removing some spacers should bring me down another 8-10g, so a total reduction of around 35g

I will most likely buy some eggbeater 2's and titanium spindles for them, or maybe just a titanium spindle for the XTR. Recommendations appreciated.

I've not been superhappy with the race gold wheels, so I'm upgrading them. Here's the start. I've bought some Light-bicycle rims promised below 360g, and they will be laced most likely with Megalite SS on the high-tension side, and X-tra lite titaniums on the low-tension side. The wheels should weigh around 1240g, and that will shed 70g + add stiffness.

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Mack superlight front hub by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Pop rear hub by Martin.F., on Flickr

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The pair by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Martin.F
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by Martin.F

Rims in place. Hopefully around 1220-1230g wheelset

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rim1 by Martin.F., on Flickr

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rim2 by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Don't you mean 1224-1234 grams? ;-) rims looks good - looking forward to hear about how they perform. Would be nice with a pair of carbon rims.

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Martin.F
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New parts! Wheelset is taped rear, non-taped front. Assuming 5g tape pr wheel, it adds up to 1248g wheelset including tape, and 1238g bare wheels. Handlebar is 640mm wide and bar-end friendly.

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Mt zoom handlebar weight by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Rear wheel weight by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Front wheel weight by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Front hub by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Nipple/rim by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Rear hub by Martin.F., on Flickr

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Mads Kock
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Great wheels, Martin - had a chance to test them?

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Good job!

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Martin.F
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No, haven't tested them yet. Waiting for some yellow tape, I ran out 15 cm before valve hole on 2nd wheel :(

I also have bought eggbeater 3's and titanium spindles. Still have to weigh the spindles as they haven't arrived yet, but I should end up around 7550g suspended, and sub 6.5kg rigid. Now, where to shed some more weight to get down to original target?

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