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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:05 pm 
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Used to get cramps every now and then when I were racing. Not bad at all, but definately not nice either. I then started taking Magnesium supplement and have never had a cramp since then. Think it's 3-4 years ago. By the way Magnesium should be good for a lot of things.

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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:41 am 
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Maybe its from your shoes or your cleats. I've had "pseudo-cramps" due to that problem.

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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:02 am 
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Conditioning + proper Hydration routines + nutrition.
That's about it.

Caffeine cut backs are a good option and will benefit you more than just the theoretical cramp-prevention.

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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:18 am 
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Tapeworm wrote:
The other is general conditioning. Usually when demands that exceed what the body is normally used to.


Yup, only time I've ever cramped, I was way exceeding my fitness. Was a trail run, mountain bike duathlon that I hadn't trained at all for. I was nearly the last guy done with the run so I killed it on the mountain bike portion. Well, was killing it, passing people, until one of my calves totally cramped up. Whoops.

Last dualthon, last cramp. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:49 pm 
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Fitness, Hydration, then nutrition is what it this discussion comes down to.

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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:23 pm 
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Very interesting that the majority of input all goes to fitness and shoes cleats. Come to think of it, when i started using northwave shoes with look keo carbon pedals cleats, is when the problem really got bad.


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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:37 pm 
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Fit can be a huge issue. My cleats used to be much further forward and moving them rearwards while adjust my saddle position to create the same basic joint angles and movement pattern ended up curing my calf cramps.

Another thing is being able to match the same cadence/force patterns in training as in racing. I have a client who would cramp terribly, but he'd race and train in different quadrants and at different cadences. Started doing them in the same and hasn't had an issue since. Never doing work at a cadence higher than 88 rpm really messed him up when he had to keep leg speed higher in a bunch in a fast crit.

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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:33 pm 
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KWalker wrote:
Fit can be a huge issue. My cleats used to be much further forward and moving them rearwards while adjust my saddle position to create the same basic joint angles and movement pattern ended up curing my calf cramps.


I had the same issue yrs ago while mtbike racing. My calves would cramp near end of 2 hr races every time. Then someone suggested to me to move my cleats back a bit. Problem went away immediately but it took a little bit to get use to the new feel.

I was surprised when I first mentioned cleat position, every one seemed to focus on diet / fitness level for the reason of cramps.
I am still leaning toward cleat positioning as being the op's issue.

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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:54 pm 
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Gregorio wrote:
KWalker wrote:
Fit can be a huge issue.

I was surprised when I first mentioned cleat position, every one seemed to focus on diet / fitness level for the reason of cramps.
I am still leaning toward cleat positioning as being the op's issue.


I started to have issues when I changed my position by going to a zero setback seatpost. I then had cramping issues, but everything was good again when I moved my cleats back on the shoe. It also can't hurt to stretch.


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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:48 am 
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I had a fitting session done (should have when i first bought my colnago) and my cleats were to far forward. And my stem was to long. Almost feel like im learning to ride all over again lol. But, 50 miles and lots of climbing, my calves never once felt crampy. Coffee and cleats fixed me up


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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:03 pm 
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colnagoracer11 wrote:
I never thought that caffien could cause cramping. I drink coffee by the pot not the cup. I will try cutting the coffee and lattes back to a 2 cups a day before i invest in another sports drink or pill. Thanks great info everyone.
Btw..I did a little investigating on compression socks, It seem like they are pretty popular as part of post ride/race recovery. Gonna try them out. Cant hurt any worse than entire leg cramps...lol


I drink too much coffee as well. I used to drink coke back in 2004 a bi bottle everyday and realized that make me nervous and decrease my strength so hopefully gave it up two years ago. For the time being, I indulge myself every time to drink coffee and don't know how to stop it, became just a habit for me guess :D


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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:23 pm 
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Hi,
Bananas can help alleviate the cause provided it is a potassium imbalance (almost any dark green, red or orange vegetable contains potassium). Leg cramps are also caused by low calcium, and high levels of lactic acid in muscles. :unbelievable:


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 Post subject: Re: cramping
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:36 pm 
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potassium gluconate was always my solution (to calf cramps after a ride), but it definitely correlated to lack of fitness early in the season. the only times i cramped while riding were when i was exceeding my previous efforts for the year by a large amount.

since then i have also moved my cleats back a bit, which has kept me from needing the potassium at all, though i have been taking a 400mg magnesium supplement daily for more general reasons.

my calves are sooooo much happier with the new cleat position. my pedal spindle is maybe 5-10mm behind the ball of my size 11 foot, so i am not one of those midfoot cleaters, or anything.


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