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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:19 pm 
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I'd love to hear your takes on this PDF which is a report made by Bent Rønnestad on the impact of doing heavy weight training for cyclists. As far as I can tell there are only benefits both in the 40 minute test as well as max power.

You can download the report http://www.motion-online.dk/fora/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=49255

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:44 pm 
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My Danish is a bit rusty but I think we need to be logged in to see what you're pointing to there. I'd be interested to read it though (if it's in English anyway) as the science of how weights effects cycling performance is full of strongly held and completely contradictory opinions.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:10 am 
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Yeah, I can't access either, however I think I recall reading this one. It did indeed show that those who did weights showed improvement in the ~20mim range. This would be likely given the theorised muscle conversion of type II fibres to more "endurance friendly" type II.

However IF I recall correctly there were some questions over protocols used and the actual power output, ie: was higher in the non weight group. If anyone can find the link I woul appreciate it.

The problem with weights and aerobic performance is there are a few studies like this which strongly SUGGEST a benefit. Whereas the number of studies which PROVE a particular cycling protocol will improve cycling ability are legion. Hence I defer to the proven methodology. However as I said, I think everyone should lift... But don't EXPECT it to help your cycling.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:06 pm 
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Here's a link to the direct location :D
http://brage.bibsys.no/nih/handle/URN:NBN:no-bibsys_brage_18929

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Thanks. Easy to see the problems with this one, 13 weeks and the Endurance group showed NO improvement in the Wingate test or maximal aerobic test but they showed an improvement in the 40min test. Unless you have training which would benefit a Wingate test this is hardly surprising. And even if they did, NO improvement over 13 weeks sounds very, very wrong. If my riders showed no improvement in this time I would be worried.

According to the authors the s+e group showed a higher relative increase for the 40min test but didnt say whether it was actually higher than the E group overall. So my questions would be:-

1) did the E group target any on-bike training that would benefit a Wingate test? (ie: very short hard efforts? )
2) What were the actual power variances on the 40min test?

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