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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:04 pm 
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5.84 5 min
4.64 20 min

140lb ,need to work on ftp I think ,will do a proper test this week ,quite happy with that off 1 cx race a week and 1 set of intervals :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:43 pm 
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5 sec: not test
1 min: not test
5 min: 4.446 W/kg
20 min: 4.09 W/kg

I was ONCE a Hong Kong national XC team athlete 11 years ago, I was 35 then.
I will be 47 next Feb.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:31 pm 
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I'm a little curious, do most of you set your peak power during training or races?

My personal experience is that I tend to set records during training, but am able to hit numbers (95-97% of peak value) more consistently and repeatedly during races.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:23 pm 
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I only ever got peak records on the 1min and 5min intervals from racing, everything else came from training
Last thing i wana do is set a new 20min peak power in a race and have everyone in my wheel, then come around me in the last 5km


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:34 pm 
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The numbers showed in this topic by you guys makes me look pathetic! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:50 pm 
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you just have to remember the internet inflation factor of 10%

a lot of these numbers are good enough to be domestic pros, certainly top regional talent, but there's only one domestic pro actually posting in the thread. One thing I learned from the few people I've helped with training so far is that their tests always fall short of the bests they claimed before, which is often because they didn't do the proper pre-20 min test protocol that Allen prescribes and assume that their 20 min is really 95% of FTP when its often only 87% to 90%

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
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I would never disagree with the "Internet Inflation Factor" however I have seen some very "ordinary" cyclists rip out some very impressive numbers. Quite often they seem be ex-"other sports" people. I saw the data of one guy who casually ripped out a 16km TT (in the lab) at 350 watts.

So I won't immediately say all data is inflated, there are some gifted specimens out there (who train hard).

Bastards. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:22 pm 
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And to add to the data. From my 40km TT on the weekend (first one in two years!) and some sprint training earlier in the week:-

Weight: 84kgs
FTP: 236 - 2.8w/kg
5 min: 251 2.9w/kg
5 sec: 1340 15.9w/kg

Mainly working on the last one, it's taken the biggest hit over the last 2 years. Used to be close to the magic 20w/kgs :(

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:04 am 
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KWalker wrote:
you just have to remember the internet inflation factor of 10%


that's why a full CP curve (which iI analyze weekly with my clients) is a no doubt ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:28 pm 
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My non-inflated :D numbers (tested on turbo, except 1min) are
20min 3.75 W/kg
5min 4.65 W/kg
1min 7.43 W/kg

which seem to correspond pretty well to CP model output except that 1m figure is a little lower than predicted (which is understandable since this number comes from last summer and hasn't been specifically trained since).

Races from 2011 have more or less confirmed both 20min as well as 5min number (+/-5W)

Given the fact that in local races in my country, which is as small as it is, there are always some competing domestic semi-pros and pros, with the numbers I have I can only hope to sit in the group (although there have been notable improvements in the easiness of sitting there) :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:36 pm 
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Tapeworm wrote:
I would never disagree with the "Internet Inflation Factor" however I have seen some very "ordinary" cyclists rip out some very impressive numbers. Quite often they seem be ex-"other sports" people. I saw the data of one guy who casually ripped out a 16km TT (in the lab) at 350 watts.

So I won't immediately say all data is inflated, there are some gifted specimens out there (who train hard).

Bastards. :D


Yah, I've seen one of those recently too- dude comes out of nowhere and rips out a 400watt 20 minute 'feeling tired'. Ran track in high school and college, makes me wish I would've actually played a sport growing up.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
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ahah same for me, instead of playing a load of different sports and some marginal one, namely, skateboarding :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:41 pm 
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Might as well post my shit, pulled from my current MMP curve

20 min.- 4.81 w/kg
FTP- 4.4 w/kg
5 min. from last year- 5.6 w/kg
1 min. from last year- 9.6 w/kg
5s from last year- 16 w/kg

I'm actually a really bad sprinter and I'm unsure if that 5s is accurate because it was from one of my Quarq's that crapped out on me. I've always had a pursuiter profile, but I've been doing a lot of base, SST, and FTP stuff recently and have yet to test again so hopefully it rises. Best FTP of last season was 4.6 w/kg and I'd like to improve upon that and manage a 5 w/kg 20 min. at some point.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:58 pm 
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Stupid question here guys:

To find your power/weight, you just divide your avg. power for a period by your body weight ?


Sorry ... :oops: :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
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yes, average power for 20-5-1min and 5 sec if you want. Divide by body weight in kg


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