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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:16 pm 
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guys, is 20.14W/kg at 1 sec power something very unique? Does is mean you're born to be a sprinter?

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:26 pm 
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Depends on your bodyweight. And what is your 5 sec and 15 sec wattages? They are much more important than the 1 sec.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:01 pm 
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i won't be able to try it for another 2 month probably as the true winter has finally begun where i live. Do you mean there is no direct corelation b/w 1sec power with 5 and 15 sec power?
The weight is 74kg now during off-season. i'll get rid of 2-3 kgs around the waist :) closer to the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:11 pm 
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You don't win races with 1 second efforts. Not 5 sec either, but it gives a pointer towards acceleration. 15 seconds is a more typical sprint scenario.

And a complete overview of the sprint durations gives a better picture than just one number.

Edit: Your sprint isn't bad, but it doesn't necessarily make you a sprinter. You have to look at the even bigger picture to see that (5 min, 20 min and 60 min wattages). And even then it's not set in stone.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:31 pm 
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While I am here I might as well post my own numbers:

5s - 1205 W
1 min - 721 W
5 min - 397 W
20 min - 340 W
60 min - 320-ish (estimation)

Weight: 64-65 kg

The 1 min value is good. The rest are allright. All from last season.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:44 pm 
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Sandal wrote:
guys, is 20.14W/kg at 1 sec power something very unique? Does is mean you're born to be a sprinter?


FWIW 20w/kg for 5 sec is the bottom rung for track sprinters, top rung for roadies. But as mentioned it's a bit of a pointless metric unless you have the engine to get to the end to use it. And even then sprint usually draw out longer than 5 sec.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:33 pm 
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Here's my stats for the last 6 weeks:

5s 17.2w/kg
1m 9.3w/kg
5m 5.6w/kg
20m 4.9w/kg

Racing as a Cat 4 in SoCal. It's my 3rd year racing and riding. I was competitive last year, with a lower absolute power profile and 10lbs heavier.

I'm a lot stronger this season so hoping there will be an upgrade in the near future; however, everyone seems overly strong this season based on last week's race.

Are these decent numbers for Cat 4/3? Seems there are a lot of big numbers in this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:51 pm 
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to answer your question. 'yes'.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:55 am 
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You should be Cat'ing up to 3 with those numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:38 am 
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Numbers don't win races so don't worry about it. Race smart and you'll be fine.

Remember that almost none of the claims in this thread are actually verified by anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:29 pm 
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"And even then sprint usually draw out longer than 5 sec."

Tape = a genius.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:16 am 
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Tapeworm wrote:

FWIW 20w/kg for 5 sec is the bottom rung for track sprinters, top rung for roadies.


I've found that for sprints (and for almost all the flat racing i do in the ME) it's absolute power much more than W/kg which matter.

5s: 17.5W/Kg
1min: 12W/Kg
5min: 6.6W/Kg
20min: 5.5W/kg

But i weigh 62Kg so i struggle to get away on the flat and i can't get near the front on a sprint - So as KWalker says; Got to race smart.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:17 am 
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5.5w/kg would put you well near the front in lots of cat 1 and domestic pro crits in the US. A teammate of mine has several top 20 NRC finishes and weighs exactly the same with a similar 20min output. Your 1min is also more than adequate for even a world tour rider, so its somewhat surprising to hear that you have issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:25 pm 
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So many good numbers, this is dispiriting.

Can anyone post stories of having had a 190w FTP who now puts out 400+ ??

Or describe when you have had your biggest gains, and what they were.

I have a torn meniscus and am feeling miserable :-( Now unable to train for a while.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:29 am 
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I don't think I was at 190, but was once a full on Hubbard. Wore pro replica kit and all.

What would you like to know?

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