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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:45 am 
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Tinea Pedis wrote:
I remember KWalker saying years ago how Danny Pate would go out and do 3 hours at 300w. For training. But that's only possible after years as a professional.


Or a couple of seasons of simply trying to ride for longer and longer at 300w/whatever watts.

I'd imagine he can do far more than that as I did that this winter (at his reported weight) and have never been close to being a professional.

Interestingly enough it didn't seem to help a bit in actual race circumstances, or even to close out a typical road race. Specificity is an interesting thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:47 am 
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that's an interesting insight TP that i was completely unaware of. in fact i had been getting disgruntled about the lack of movement in my 1 min, 5 min etc. but at the same time i had been riding at levels of power output for durations of time that i found pleasantly surprising.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:11 am 
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mrgray wrote:
that's an interesting insight TP that i was completely unaware of. in fact i had been getting disgruntled about the lack of movement in my 1 min, 5 min etc. but at the same time i had been riding at levels of power output for durations of time that i found pleasantly surprising.


Extensive training: increase the amount of time at a given wattage.
Intensive training: increase the amount of wattage at a given time.

Both excellent to include in a program, generally extensive first to "push", then intensive to "pull". I always find intensive a bit more mentally taxing.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:17 am 
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Rubik wrote:
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Rubik wrote:
So it doesn't quite seem that you know what you're going on about, either, but I assume you'll keep trying.

He's only replied to everything posted by yourself, if anyone has no idea it's not TP.

You really need to eat a Snickers and learn the basics of online interaction. Hint: people may ask for expansion on points you make. No need to lose you rag.


Your first sentence makes little sense. The entire point of my responses to him was in regards to the initial extent of my first post to someone else. For some inexplicable reason he felt compelled to dive right in to a topic which I was not discussing.

People may ask for expansion of points and they may get them. Then they may make random and erroneous assertions and have that pointed out.

No need to jump into the middle of something you're not quite sure about. Hope that clears that up for you, though.

And my point proven.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:20 am 
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MarkTwain wrote:
And my point proven.

Bravo.


Ah, goody. Well, maybe you'll figure it out some day.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:35 pm 
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Had a go at some 1 min efforts, not too bad:

1 min - 699w (7.94w/kg) 855w/kg (9.72w/kg)
30" - 921w (10.47w/kg) 1,150w (13.07w/kg)
15" - 1,233w (14.01w/kg) 1,346w (15.3w/kg)
5" - 1,592w (18.10w/kg) No change
Peak - 1,686w (19.16w/kg) No change

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:45 pm 
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Rubik wrote:
Interestingly enough it didn't seem to help a bit in actual race circumstances, or even to close out a typical road race. Specificity is an interesting thing.

This was when he was a Sky domestique, which he did well. Specificity indeed.

mrgray wrote:
that's an interesting insight TP that i was completely unaware of. in fact i had been getting disgruntled about the lack of movement in my 1 min, 5 min etc. but at the same time i had been riding at levels of power output for durations of time that i found pleasantly surprising.

A few years ago I started looked at the ratio of what power I could hold for 30, 45, 60 and 120 minutes compared to my peak 20 power. Sure enough, the longer I've ridden and raced for the more that gap has narrowed. All this before hearing those anecdotes from the pros.

My 'issue' now is I cannot seem to push through my FTP ceiling much more.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:44 am 
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I just recently got a power meter and I have been using it mostly in mtb races so I have some high short efforts, but the longer sustained ones aren't where I think they can be yet. I need to do another FTP test sometime soon I weigh 134 lbs (61 kg).

5 sec - 20.82 W/kg
1 min - 10.08 W/kg
5 min - 6.20 W/kg
FTP - 4.21 W/kg


My proudest power data point is in a long endurance ride where I did 3.56 W/kg for 4 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:30 pm 
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jkreger15 wrote:
5 sec - 20.82 W/kg

Impressive!


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 Post subject: Re: Powerprofiles
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:43 pm 
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I've been riding seriously for just over a year focusing mainly on cross and collegiate road racing. Here's what I've got at 60 kg

5 min - 400w
10 min - 340 w
20 min- 300 w

haven't really tested any short power. just got a power meter a couple weeks ago for indoor training.


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