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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:31 pm 
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Over the last couple of weeks my semitendinosus (at least it feels like that one) has been sore when I started riding but after 10 miles or less of warm up I did not feel anything. Did 115 miles with 6200 ft of elevation gain Saturday and the semitendinosus got more sore and I could not ride as fast as I wanted to. I have ridden a lot over the last 30 days more than normal (before this I was on vacation for 2 weeks with only two short rides during that). Plus riding down hill and working on a home renovation project. I think its just over worked but I wanted to ask if anybody had other reasons I should look into which could have caused it?

I will go see a sports doctor on Thursday to get more advice so this does not become a big problem and until then I will just give the legs some rest.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:23 am 
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* Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation technique can be applied
* Apply a Compression bandage to the area
* Mobilize the lower limb by stretching and strengthening the area within a pain free range

http://semitendinosus.wikispaces.com/

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:39 am 
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Maybe seat too high and/or too far back.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:34 am 
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dual wrote:
Maybe seat too high and/or too far back.

Agree...
Or too much toe out in your cleat position...

Another cause can the attachment of the medial head of gastrocnemius (which is in the same area) and can sometimes be caused by cleats a little forward of where they should be...

What pedal system and amount of float do u run?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:18 pm 
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Thanks for all the replies. I put ice on it last night and it felt really good. I actually feel something in both legs but its the left leg that is the worst. I will go to the Sports Doctor Thursday and when I have seen him I will do a bike fitting. One of my friends actually got the fitting done through his medical insurance and I will talk to the doctor about that too.

I run Look Keo Carbon with gray cleats. The cleat is as far back as it could be.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:14 pm 
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Damn,

I read it semitendinosaurs


Thought it was one of these: http://amazeworld.webs.com/2ijpxr4.jpg


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:39 pm 
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No that would have been a totally different problem :D


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:42 am 
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drmutley wrote:
Or too much toe out in your cleat position...

Unless it was at the insertion, and even then I would be reticent to think it, would I think cleat being too much "toe out" as being a factor.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:31 am 
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Tinea Pedis wrote:
drmutley wrote:
Or too much toe out in your cleat position...

Unless it was at the insertion, and even then I would be reticent to think it, would I think cleat being too much "toe out" as being a factor.


Really? Any reasoning behind your thoughts?

It's quite well documented that excessive tibial external rotation (or toe out) during the pedal stroke is a cause of Pes anserinus tendinopathy/bursitis. I was making the assumption that the OPs problem was at the knee, as this is a common area of hamstring problems in cyclists. I guess the OP can elaborate here.

There is a nice little table of problems and causes, albeit a little simplistic, in the following bike fit article...

http://www.brianmac.co.uk/cycling/bikesetup.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:03 pm 
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The pain is not close to the knee but higher up. My knees have actually felt really good this year but felt worn around this time and when I rode the most last year. The difference in riding is I have done much longer trips around 120 miles/200k vs more short fast rides last year.

One of my friends who rides and run suggested this for post riding:

http://www.foam-roller.com/


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:12 pm 
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Go back to riding shorter rides. Then gradually increse the mileage.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:51 pm 
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Yes, that would be the plan anyway. The family has just returned so will have less time to do 6-7 hour rides. I has been really amazing to do long rides I really like it.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:52 am 
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If yr getting sore in the belly of the hamstrings then this is unlikely to be sinister... Back off load a little, stretch, heat and some massage if it's available... Make sure u have good lumbosacral flexibility as this can be a factor in developing hammy tightness...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:28 pm 
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drmutley, I think you actually agreed with me.

And I disagree with a lot of that link. But you were right in it being a little simplistic.

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Saw the doctor today. He did not seem to worried about it but unfortunately knew nothing about biking. He too thought it was a case of over working myself lately. Also I have a back problem a couple of years ago which he said could also be part of the problem. He suggested physical therapy to put some good a good strength and stretch program together. I would still would like to do a bike fitting and I have maybe found a physical therapist who can do it too.


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