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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:51 pm 
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I am not arguing with the facts - everyone knows that. That's my point.


That's a pretty big assumption. There are plenty of people on this message board (and out there riding and even racing) that DON'T know that. Why do you think so many people chornically over-train?


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I was stating an example that it is possible to do 200km and be fine, but riding on REDLINE ZONE for little as 20km can kill you.


I am not arguing with the facts - everyone knows that. That's my point.


I'm saying this isn't the case at all as it depends how you train.

I train at 95% of my max HR and can do a 20km TT without breaking a sweat.

I then struggle over races 100km+.


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Bruiser wrote:
smallfish101 wrote:
I am not arguing with the facts - everyone knows that. That's my point.


I'm saying this isn't the case at all as it depends how you train.

I train at 95% of my max HR and can do a 20km TT without breaking a sweat.

I then struggle over races 100km+.


I'd have to agree 100% with bruiser. Training in zones 2 and 3 will improve your core fitness and aerobic capacity. While training in zones 2 and 3 you can also concentrate on technique.

Training in zones 4 and 5 will improve your sprinting and boost your LT.


How you train influences the balance between slow twitch muscles (requiring less energy and better equiped for endurance events) and fast twitch muscles (requiring more energy and better equiped for sprinting and fast short distances).

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Seems I'm getting a bit flamed here for my comments.
Let's just review the thread. I don't have any arguments about your Training vs racing etc; but that is not quite how it went;
Jalapeno: "I did a 60 km race thursday then mountain bike Friday then 50 km hilly time trial Sunday then 200 km event (?road race) Monday now my legs a fu..ed and I don't know why."

Go figure.

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smallfish101 wrote:
Seems I'm getting a bit flamed here for my comments.
Let's just review the thread. I don't have any arguments about your Training vs racing etc; but that is not quite how it went;
Jalapeno: "I did a 60 km race thursday then mountain bike Friday then 50 km hilly time trial Sunday then 200 km event (?road race) Monday now my legs a fu..ed and I don't know why."

Go figure.


It's not an unusual workload for me, hence surprise...


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