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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:02 pm 
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I have had twice of pneumothorax surgery almost 13 years ago.
When I got second surgery, took off right side lower lung. It is almost 20% of both lungs.
So, I still cannot have it. It is not gonna recovered ever.

When i breathe fast or too deep while climbing, pain started from tail edge of lung. and it is not easily gone.
The pain, That i have never experienced before, even while local anesthesia surgery.
Doctor said the pain from scar of lung, and It is alright even so painful.
So, usually I ride flat or carmelback shape road. only a little category climb.

I'm sad about cannot to ride freely.

However, If anyone has like this case, and who had breakthrough from it.
Please tell me. How to get over it.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:10 pm 
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a friend had a similar issue. has problems breathing when climbing...similar to your issue where the pain is intense.
doctor gave him a puffer for asthma...that seems to help early on in the ride...but i suppose it wears off during long rides? because he has a few issues getting home.

sorry, but i don't have a remedy for this...just what he's told me about the albuterol that he takes for it. for him...its been a few years...maybe going on two so far.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:55 pm 
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depends what they did. Often after recurrent pneumothorax they will put a sclerosing agent in to remove the potential space between the lung and the chest wall. This removes the potential for a space for air to move into and so removes the chance for pneumothorax. If this is the case and I assume you have had some follow up with respirologist and or thoracic surgeon and appropriate imaging than your doctors reasoning may be correct. I would add though that if it is mechanical you should be able to reproduce the pain with simple deep breathing exercises. If putting out similar efforts in the flats you don't get pain I would think it is more positional though.

I would also have concerns regarding cardiac status depending on age and other factors.

I am an asthmatic and certainly get some pain in the chest when spending far too much time in the red zone, which certainly would include most climbs with all those damn skinny bike racing elfs. Never attributed it to my asthma, just to the usual suffering of the sport that I love.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:42 am 
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kode54 wrote:
a friend had a similar issue. has problems breathing when climbing...similar to your issue where the pain is intense.
doctor gave him a puffer for asthma...that seems to help early on in the ride...but i suppose it wears off during long rides? because he has a few issues getting home.

sorry, but i don't have a remedy for this...just what he's told me about the albuterol that he takes for it. for him...its been a few years...maybe going on two so far.


I'm using symbicort turbuhaler with some pills. Maybe your friend using same as mine. It's kind of only relaxant for asthma safely.
I need any clue for reduce this pain. So, Thank you for told me.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 8:13 am 
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drchull wrote:
depends what they did. Often after recurrent pneumothorax they will put a sclerosing agent in to remove the potential space between the lung and the chest wall. This removes the potential for a space for air to move into and so removes the chance for pneumothorax. If this is the case and I assume you have had some follow up with respirologist and or thoracic surgeon and appropriate imaging than your doctors reasoning may be correct. I would add though that if it is mechanical you should be able to reproduce the pain with simple deep breathing exercises. If putting out similar efforts in the flats you don't get pain I would think it is more positional though.

I would also have concerns regarding cardiac status depending on age and other factors.

I am an asthmatic and certainly get some pain in the chest when spending far too much time in the red zone, which certainly would include most climbs with all those damn skinny bike racing elfs. Never attributed it to my asthma, just to the usual suffering of the sport that I love.


My case is exactly coincide with your said. My first surgery was for autotherapy, just made a hole and put pipe into my chest. but pneumothorax a relapse, then the doctors had treated exactly as you said. after healed from pneumothorax, asthma was came.
I agree about damn skinny bike racing elfs. lol. They just torture as mentally at the climb.
In anyway, I might be adapting this pain myself. I'm gonna try to like suffer as you, even it's to hard to patient.

Thanks for your advise.


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