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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:29 am 
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I thought that too, went out and bought a new MTB last summer only to find out that around here at least, it's bad ettiequte to ride on the trails in the rain and for a week or so after, which meant pretty much never last winter rain season. :(


You need to find some rocky trails that don't get destroyed after it rains. And you don't need to wait a week - two or three days is good if you pick the right trails and ride around the big puddles.

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You need to find some rocky trails that don't get destroyed after it rains. And you don't need to wait a week - two or three days is good if you pick the right trails and ride around the big puddles.



Yeah, unfortunately the rocky trails are not practical to get to with any frequency. Around here we have soft dirt with clay, so it never really dries out and it globs on to your bike. The trails close to my house got totally destroyed by cows after the rains, so even when it dried out, it was pretty unrideable.


Back to the trainer, reading DC Rainmaker, not much recommendation for the Kinetic smart trainers as of late and the Snap is only like $120 more than upgrading mine. Anyone have an opinion on just getting a Snap (or other) vs upgrading the Kinetic? I have a power meter on the bike, mostly concerned about resistance changes to simulate hills, etc on Zwift



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:30 pm 
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MoPho wrote:
AJS914 wrote:
You need to find some rocky trails that don't get destroyed after it rains. And you don't need to wait a week - two or three days is good if you pick the right trails and ride around the big puddles.



Yeah, unfortunately the rocky trails are not practical to get to with any frequency. Around here we have soft dirt with clay, so it never really dries out and it globs on to your bike. The trails close to my house got totally destroyed by cows after the rains, so even when it dried out, it was pretty unrideable.


Back to the trainer, reading DC Rainmaker, not much recommendation for the Kinetic smart trainers as of late and the Snap is only like $120 more than upgrading mine. Anyone have an opinion on just getting a Snap (or other) vs upgrading the Kinetic? I have a power meter on the bike, mostly concerned about resistance changes to simulate hills, etc on Zwift



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Kinetic Smart Trainers seem that have bad SMart implementation. And their naming is not clear enough what is SMART and what is not SMART considered..

For Example they are saying Kinetic Road Machine Smart, but it's just have INRide module which mean is dumb trainer + some kind of powermeter.

This can be ok, if u dont have power meter, and still want to have some more detaile power measurement. A bit better maybe then using virtual power.

The Kinetic Trainers named with SMART CONTROL are real smart trainers.. Which seem that have very bad implementation and dont work properly..So Smart Control are smart (EGR mode), and just SMART are not really smart (just some kind of power meter (InRide), and no EGR mode or resistance controlling trough software)


In my opinion probably u should start using some software for training (TrainerRoad maybe), and dont need to upgrade the trainer if u have allready PowerMeter (which is important for training). As first i thought as well how good is to have climb simulation, but after reading experiences seem a bit like gimick..

But to be honest i never had a chance to ride a SMART trainer, so take my opinion with a reserve.. Check other thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=147145

It helped me to choose in my case...


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Kinetic Smart Trainers seem that have bad SMart implementation. And their naming is not clear enough what is SMART and what is not SMART considered..

For Example they are saying Kinetic Road Machine Smart, but it's just have INRide module which mean is dumb trainer + some kind of powermeter.

This can be ok, if u dont have power meter, and still want to have some more detaile power measurement. A bit better maybe then using virtual power.

The Kinetic Trainers named with SMART CONTROL are real smart trainers.. Which seem that have very bad implementation and dont work properly..So Smart Control are smart (EGR mode), and just SMART are not really smart (just some kind of power meter (InRide), and no EGR mode or resistance controlling trough software)


In my opinion probably u should start using some software for training (TrainerRoad maybe), and dont need to upgrade the trainer if u have allready PowerMeter (which is important for training). As first i thought as well how good is to have climb simulation, but after reading experiences seem a bit like gimick..

But to be honest i never had a chance to ride a SMART trainer, so take my opinion with a reserve.. Check other thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=147145

It helped me to choose in my case...



Thanks, I had discovered that thread late last night and pretty much came to the same conclusion. I have a power meter on the bike, so will just stick with what I have for another season and see where I am at next year. I was hoping that the smart resistance/simulation will make it more fun/tolerable.


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