Wahoo KICKR or the Elite Real Turbo Muin
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Need to buy a Turbo and want one where I can ride real courses / upload to Strava to relieve boredom as well as ride at FTP. Want to use my iPad as the screen. I think it has to be the Wahoo KICKR or the Elite Real Turbo Muin. I like the look of the KICKR as it seems to work well Zwift and have not seen a Turbo Muin yet but I hear Elite are releasing a new version Elite Real Turbo Muin B+ and it surely must have some upgrade over the additional Bluetooth connectivity? Also I have had several Elite Turbos over the years and they have all lasted very well. Any opinions / advice please. I will use wit ha campy hub but I think they both need an additional free-hub at extra cost...
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I'm going for the Elite Qubo Digital Smart B+. You need your rear wheel to use it but it does all the other stuff. Is controlled over FE-C so you can let apps, like Zwift, control the resistance of your trainer.
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The new new elite real turbo muin b+ also has been upgraded to communicate over fe-c. Otherwise, I believe it is identical to the old one.
I have the old one. It is a great trainer and very quiet. The included software is a bit buggy though. However, I really only use it for erg mode which works great!
I have the old one. It is a great trainer and very quiet. The included software is a bit buggy though. However, I really only use it for erg mode which works great!
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Kickr with a 5800 casette? Will play nice with your Campy (assuming 11s) cassetes are dirt cheap compared to campy also. Ive put a couple of hundred hours on mine using trainer road/zwift and the only complaint I had was the factory skewer was a bit sub par, an old ultegra one fixed that issue tho.
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Nefarious86 wrote:Kickr with a 5800 casette? Will play nice with your Campy (assuming 11s) cassetes are dirt cheap compared to campy also. Ive put a couple of hundred hours on mine using trainer road/zwift and the only complaint I had was the factory skewer was a bit sub par, an old ultegra one fixed that issue tho.
Really, are all 11 speed groupsets using the same sprocket gaps? that's handy to know! Yes I have 11s Super record (2015) on the bike likely to end up on the turbo and currently 10s Chorus on the other but soon to be upgraded to 11s Chorus.
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They are all close enough that it is fine, set the casette up with the correct shims and enjoy. With a kicker you use the same gear the entire workout in ERG mode anyway. I'm tempted to put a single speed cog/spacer kit on mine TBH. I rarely use Zwift and its 5 mins to swap out a casette if I do want to use it.
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Nefarious86 wrote:With a kicker you use the same gear the entire workout in ERG mode anyway.
+1. My Kickr is where the cassettes go after being taken out of the regular rotation. I can put several weeks/months on the 11, then the 12, and finally the 13. These always have some life left in them compared to the rest of the bunch.
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This in a 22t will probably be what I end up using spaced to suit the small ring, if I need a casette for Zwift its a 5 min job. I find that the lower the gear inches the more precise ERG mode seems to track.
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That is interesting. I never went above 13t, so I haven't experimented with the precision based on gearing. While in Erg mode, I always set my power off my power meter, and it usually falls in the neighborhood of about a 10W differential.
This, of course, was how I made it through the last two New England winters. Now? I'm in Hawaii and the Kickr is collecting dust (well, technically it's under a dust cover, so it's still clean!).
This, of course, was how I made it through the last two New England winters. Now? I'm in Hawaii and the Kickr is collecting dust (well, technically it's under a dust cover, so it's still clean!).
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I find it reacts smother using 39 21-25 than using the 53, puerly anecdotal but it makes sense from a mechanical/theory standpoint and power shifts feel more direct.
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cmcdonnell wrote:Nefarious86 wrote:Kickr with a 5800 casette? Will play nice with your Campy (assuming 11s) cassetes are dirt cheap compared to campy also. Ive put a couple of hundred hours on mine using trainer road/zwift and the only complaint I had was the factory skewer was a bit sub par, an old ultegra one fixed that issue tho.
Really, are all 11 speed groupsets using the same sprocket gaps? that's handy to know! Yes I have 11s Super record (2015) on the bike likely to end up on the turbo and currently 10s Chorus on the other but soon to be upgraded to 11s Chorus.
i have a Campy SR11 bike on a Kickr with a spare DA9000 cassette that i had (11-25T). gears are a big issue on the Kickr like it is on the bike (11-27T) on bike. no issues with shifting. gap is probably so close that it doesn't matter.
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