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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:18 am 
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Just to be clear and to answer FrankieB, I'm not too bitter, just a little bit :)

Mostly, I just like to look at both sides of a question and argue whichever side is underrepresented. In this case, I'm actually casually invested in the argument as well, being someone who doesn't post much and who found out about the new rules by having a "for sale"post over written by the message "please read the rules".


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:18 am 
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See Loki, you are not lazy. One more post and you'll be able to sell those DA parts (^_^).

EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot you also have to wait a month, which is a day away for you :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:55 am 
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@ Dan,

Funny you mention that you didn't see the new rule, Everytime I log onto WW all of the new posts are marked with a orange/ yellowish marker. I explicitly made the post a new post in stead of editing the older rules and I made it an announcement. By doing this it came up in a part just above, but attached, to the forum and with another sign in front of the post. I think it is kind of strange that you and others didn't/don't notice it.

@ the others,

With this said I would also like to address the complaint that 30 posts and one month of membership are a harsh rule. We think it is not. As said before in the last half a year we saw a lot of people signing on to WW just to sell their parts. The WW crowd is a good and smart crowd, and the possibility of them buying from sellers with no real 'feedback' is very slim.
By enforcing this rule we encourage people to become an active member and get some credibility. this will also make selling for them easier. 30 posts isn't that much. 30/31 days is quite low as well. one post a day for one moth and: Presto!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:24 pm 
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I think the rule is great.

I've bought and sold a few things here, including some rather pricey items, and haven't had any issues. It is a leap of faith & trust that things will go well, but the measures you have in place help minimize a bad outcome.

For what it's worth, I always look for the time a member has been around and the # of posts before contemplating a transaction with them (either buying from, or selling to).


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:52 pm 
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I have been a racing cyclist for 20 years, and have certainly bought and sold my fair share of equipment over the years, but wasn't even aware of WW until a buddy turned me on to it this week. I actually think the rules for buying and selling are more than fair, and am totally down with it. It's going to take me AT LEAST a month to check out all the forum postings and get up to speed with the site anyway. Am stoked to be part of WW now - cool site.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:12 am 
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I think the new rules are a very good thing; most of us would agree that people signing up simply to sell stuff isn't in keeping with the community spirit of the site. Unfortunately for some infrequent posters/new members, the only truly effective way to prevent this involves broad strokes, such as the new rules. It may (temporarily) hinder a few, but satisfies the ideals of the many in this case.

I would, however, suggest that the rules be posted in a more obvious fashion. A lot of the For Sale posts I see deleted seem to be made by users who aren't aware of the rules. Perhaps some sort of brightly-colored banner on the top of that forum page? It'll keep all the scrupulous people from breaking the rules, at least. The other option, of course, is to write it into the code of the forum, such that the board itself simply won't allow posts in the For Sale forum if the posting user hasn't met the requirements.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:11 am 
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Well this Bangkok guy is taking the p!ss - he's spammed the test forum to get his post count up.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:13 am 
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Thanks Red. Noted and action is being taken.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:51 pm 
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Redddraggon wrote:
Well this Bangkok guy is taking the p!ss - he's spammed the test forum to get his post count up.

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=10044
You was thinking the same as me. He keeps posting even though his posts are deleted repeatedly. I've noticed that there are more people coming on here that have very few posts but want to sell. Seems a bit strange to me.

I've been on here for nearly 5 years now and have seen plenty come and go. I think the 30 post rule is generous because I wouldn't buy a thing off anyone with 30 posts.

It's a good rule that gives us more protection.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:23 pm 
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For anyone wondering:

Bankok did get a warning.

I deleted his posts in the test section.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:53 pm 
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This guy looks like he's pulling the same spamming trick, more subtle but not subtle enough.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:33 pm 
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Redddraggon wrote:
This guy looks like he's pulling the same spamming trick, more subtle but not subtle enough.

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8171
Great insight!!! :D

I also have a feeling about someone else, who is doing it far more subtly.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:16 pm 
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We are working on it.

But please do pm me or one of the other mods with your suspicions.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:14 pm 
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This doesn't make good reading.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2699/416 ... 3808_o.jpg

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:57 am 
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yeah, can we get those topics actually deleted. Give the user a warning through PMs. It's gotten a bit ridiculous.

Better yet, It should be possible to code restrictions in php, which would solve all of our problems.

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