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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:33 pm 
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I run a ti Airborne Carpe Diem with discs on my commuter/trainer/mild tourer

It's just the job - supple, light enough, tough etc.

However, there isn't that much around which is equivalent. There's the VN Amazon which is similar (but has slightly different geometry) and you'd need to do a disc-based build rather than the standard cantis.

http://vannicholas.com/12/Amazon/bike.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:19 pm 
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i like the raleigh roper, maybe its a little heavy for race but for a multi function bike looks perfecft

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:53 am 
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Genesis, On one and Planet X are nice. VN needs a DISC brake ;) Raleigh might be a bit heavy ;)

With Genesis I would go with alloy frame as here we get lots of rain during winter and steel will rust within a year or so and would do the same with On One/Planet X if alloy's available. If I choose either of these brand I will buy frame/set only and would go custom with carbon flat bar & seatpost. I like the dropbars but I prefered the control of a flatbar off road with bar end for comfort for touring.

If I go custom, can I do this combo below?

Shimano or SRAM:

mtb shifter with road Front and Rear derailleur (cassette?)?

Or I'm thinking go full off road gears.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:54 am 
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okay...

Rear:
- you can use a MTB 9spd right shifter with any Shimano road rear mech
- you can't use the latest 10spd MTB shifters with road rear mechs though (they only work with 10spd MTB mechs)
- if you want 10spd with a road mech then you'll need to use a SLR770 shifter

Front:
- You can't (quite) use a MTB left shifter with a road front mech, as it overshifts. You can bodge this quite easily though (with the limit screws) on a double c/set but not on a triple.
- Ideally you want a SLR440 or 770 left shifter to work properly with your road front mech.

SRAM and Shimano cassettes are interchangeable.

ps steel takes a lot longer than a year to rust :shock: trust me, I live in England


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:03 pm 
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SRAM 10 speed is all interchangeable AFAIK.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:49 pm 
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I'm in a similar boat need something that will do everything averagely as a commuter, I'm torn between either the Crux Disc or the Croix de Fer, if the Specialized was available as a frame only I'd have one like a shot.

The new Kinesis thing looks nice as well, so that's three options now oh Singular cycles do something and Salsa and Surly as well now.

Spoiled for choice! :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:17 am 
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I have decided on the Boardman Team, seems like a good bike and value and to do some upgrades later. Going to replace a few things with carbon and that heavy wheelset (Ritchey OCR DISC 700c).

Thinking of building custom wheelset nothing too expensive as this will be my CX and road cafe racer. These combo = mtb hubs XT or hope etc... not sure about the rims, mavic open pro or that new WTB CX rim, anyone got any suggestion for lightweight but not too expensive wheelset?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:59 am 
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Why not a Crest wheelset? Much lighter than Open Pro's!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:25 am 
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I run 29er Hope Hoops - Pro2EVO on Crest - on my disc'd commuter. They come in at £280 in the UK. I run them with 28mm Conti GP4Seasons (tubed).

As said, Crests are lighter than OPs by a fair chunk (380g vs 435ish)


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:26 pm 
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cool, what spokes and nipples did you use as I was thinking of using DT swiss revo 2.0/1.5/2.0 with alloy nipples? Also, can I use 23mm or is 28mm tyre is the minimum?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:59 am 
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maddog 2 wrote:
SRAM and Shimano cassettes are interchangeable.
Not quite.

Sram mountain & road cassettes are interchangeable with Shimano road only. Shimano mountain bike cassettes are their own standard.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:32 am 
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Wrong. All 10 speed Shimano and SRAM cassettes have the same c2c spacing.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:24 am 
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how did you get a Boardman into Aus ?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:03 am 
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haven't order it yet, but a few UK shops seems to ship them ok to Australia when I emailed them. Also, one of my inlaw lives there so shouldn't have no problem otherwise i'll build something else.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:18 pm 
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Not quite

Sram road and Shimano road cassettes are the same spacing (9 and 10 spd)

Sram mtb and Shimano mtb cassettes are the same spacing (9spd)

But AFAIK Shimano MTB 10spd are (slightly) different from all other 10spd cassettes

He'll be using a road setup by the sound of though so my original point is still true: Sram and Shimano cassettes can be swapped about at will.


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