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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:40 am 
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Have run a few single ring setups over the last few years. All have been on 'normal' rounded tubes on the seat tube and run a K-Edge single ring CX chain guard. Perfect. The seat-tube on the Crux is squared where it meets the bottom bracket and makes it impossible to fit this.

Anyone know if there is a braze on version of this mount or similar?

Don't want to run a front derauiler for both weight and jamming. E-type mounts wont work as I'm running a 43 front ring and in past experience they clogged up pretty badly.

Ideas?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:24 am 
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for a customer's hillclimb bike with one ring, i used a k-edge braze-on mounted guide. i first used a piece of round aluminum that i drilled and tapped for an m5 bolt. that gave the k-edge something to screw into, as there would be no derailleur. then i drilled and threaded another hole, this time into the side of the k-edge itself, directly over the chainring. this allowed me to thread a bolt there, which was just above the chain when in the easiest cog. i locknutted the bolt on the left side of the k-edge with a little (plastic) nut.
now the chain cannot lift itself up over the chainring teeth, a requirement in derailment...
pics to follow


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:28 pm 
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We put a cheap "Third Eye" fang style on my wife's for a single ring application. This was the "universal" fit type with a hose clamp. Has been working fine.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:30 pm 
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I know a couple guys run the CruX single with an outer guard and the K-Edge braze on, but not drilled out from the side as discussed above. No complaints from them. Last weekend's race had a couple really rough washboard sections and no one reported any dropped chains.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:43 pm 
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Double guards are more reliable than a guard and a watcher anyway, do you have room for a guard on the inner position? This will change your chainline in that now your chainring will be on the outer spot on the crankset (where the big ring goes on a double) rather than the inner spot.

You'll need long chainring bolts & spacers too, along with the extra guard. The price of the K-Edge makes that a bit easier to take though, especially if you run inexpensive guards like BBG.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:09 pm 
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helios wrote:
I know a couple guys run the CruX single with an outer guard and the K-Edge braze on, but not drilled out from the side as discussed above. No complaints from them. Last weekend's race had a couple really rough washboard sections and no one reported any dropped chains.


THink the clamp I have is too narrow to fit around the tubing. Might try a wider clamp though.

JBV wrote:
Double guards are more reliable than a guard and a watcher anyway, do you have room for a guard on the inner position?


I should have space to run double rings, have in the past on other frames, just tying to get away with as light as possible I suppose! Have the BBG guards somewhere...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:19 pm 
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GregMay wrote:
I should have space to run double rings, have in the past on other frames, just tying to get away with as light as possible I suppose! Have the BBG guards somewhere...


BBG superlights at $12/guard, 20-30g each depending on model: http://www.bbgbashguard.com/superlights.html


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:23 pm 
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What about using no guards and just using a pauls chain keeper? That would be the lightest system.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:06 pm 
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You can't because of the square shaped tubing at the seat tube/bb junction on the crux.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:13 pm 
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Ohh, I didn't know that.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:04 am 
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K-edge makes a clamp on catcher that mounts higher on the seat tube than the normal one. I too had a problem initially since my Jamis also squares toward the BB.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:41 am 
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Maybe make one yourself? If you don't feel like making it from scratch, it would be fairly easy to adapt the Paul BB mount guide.

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Just toss the actual BB mount. Use the 'arm' and make a little L-bracket to attach the 'arm' to the braze on mount. Should be quite light and the only cost on top of the Paul guide would be a tiny piece of aluminum angle from a hardware store - which could be painted black and no-one would know it wasn't a 'factory' part. That approach would probably work with a few other guides too.

I'm sure someone like Mattias could make one for you. I think he's done a few non-standard guides. This is a custom SRAM direct mount guide:
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I think I've seen Fibre-Lyte mention they were/are thinking about making something also?

Maybe Berk on the forums here would also make something to suit?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:11 am 
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my crux came with a dog fang to use but because of the square section it doesn't fit, totally pointless sending one.
anybody got weights for their fully built up cruxs?


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