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Yeah, I was a bit "scared" about tubulars - I have two "left hands" 8) - glue, the whole procedure of putting them on. But I decided that now I have the budget - and at these prices that won't happen very often, so basically it is now or probably never. So I decided it will be "now" and go all the way with this bike. I will leave for a Chrismas holiday this Saturday (cycling in France) and the goodies will be at the bikeshop for me to pick up when I'm back in Amsterdam two weeks later.

Tire choice = difficult choice. The easy way would be Tufo because a shop near my home stocks them. The tires I need should last quite long (I don't want to change them to often) and have a good pattern for fast, flat tracks. I'm thinking 30 mm. Any suggestions apart from the obvious Dugast? :D


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I would shop some nicer frame and fork definedly after getting those new desent wheels. It's a RAPE, LW's on Kinesis frame! What a shame!!! CS's Uncle Stefan will turn in his grave, no, in his office chair for this.

And 39/12-25 would be easyer to pick. But if you find 13-26 Ti-cassette...

And C64 on cross bike? I hope you are really light. I would go for AX-lightness for because they really last on heavy use.

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Samu, did you make it your task to give negative comments about everything I do? I am very satisfied with the 1380 gr. anodized frame and with the 505 gr. (cut) fork. So what should be the problem? 39? I have the 42/13-26 ever since I bought the bike, again what's the problem? I don't mind constructive comments but you're just bashing everything I do.

Lightweigts are "decent" wheels? I am most curious about your idea of "good" wheels :roll:


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Timo wrote:
Samu, did you make it your task to give negative comments about everything I do? I am very satisfied with the 1380 gr. anodized frame and with the 505 gr. (cut) fork. So what should be the problem?

Lightweigts are "decent" wheels? I am most curious about your idea of "good" wheels :roll:


Sorry about that, I try to turn my habits.

I like really LW's as I have 3 pieces of them. Front 16, rear std. and rear disk. But braking in rain and mud is bit "not so ideal",on most pads.

I wouldn't look on weight only, specially on CX bike. But how they ride...CX is world of ti. Or VERY well made CF. And I would look for Reynold CX fork or something better quality.And 1380g is not so light for alloy frames. Many midsized ti CX-frames weght same.

Can you get 13-26 full ti Recod cassette somewhere?

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Salden said they have the cassette. Your comment gives me a feeling that I can expect a phonecall from them that they made a mistake 8)


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BTW, I didn't say the frame is light - I said I like it :D


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Timo wrote:
Salden said they have the cassette. Your comment gives me a feeling that I can expect a phonecall from them that they made a mistake 8)


Then tell how it did go and how much it weights. I had bad troulbles getting 12-23 full ti Record cassette back them. So I have now 11-23 Tune,12-23 Record std,12-25 Chorus and 12-23 Veloce. (They seem to last forever...)

If you like Kinesis frame, I wonder what you think after trying Tommasini Fire steel CX, or Litespeed ti-cross or similar... :roll:

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So I have now 11-23 Tune,12-23 Record std,12-25 Chorus and 12-23 Veloce.


Sounds like a pretty decent selection of cassettes :D

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Those are 10 speed ones. Tune for LW disk, Record for LW spoke wheels, Chorus and Veloce for racing and spare/training wheels. I think I make last one out of CF for Tune since it's not used ever. It's limited out of use but it's nice to be there because IF chain slips over to between cassette and disk...:shock:

LW disk is "featherlight" and build from spokes...

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Timo wrote:
Tire choice = difficult choice. The easy way would be Tufo because a shop near my home stocks them. The tires I need should last quite long (I don't want to change them to often) and have a good pattern for fast, flat tracks. I'm thinking 30 mm. Any suggestions apart from the obvious Dugast? :D


The new Tufo Flexus sounds very promising, AFAIK only in 32 mm. If you don't want Dugast you can also look at gomittalia, they are subtle and have a nice thread as well. IMO you should reglue a tubular for every season, especially on a cx bike when you clean it with a powercleaner. If you don't do excessive road training with the tires most should last at least one season.


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To Samu> You lucky ba***rd :lol:

lets see a picture of the complete cx-bike with LW wheels?

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The new Tufo Flexus sounds very promising, AFAIK only in 32 mm. If you don't want Dugast you can also look at gomittalia, they are subtle and have a nice thread as well. IMO you should reglue a tubular for every season, especially on a cx bike when you clean it with a powercleaner. If you don't do excessive road training with the tires most should last at least one season.

It is not a matter of not wanting Dugast. I know Dugast is top of the bill. I was just very curious about other options :) Are the other Tufo tires (elite and pro) that much worse when compared to Gomitalia and Dugast? I guess thats a rethorical question! 8)


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Whatever, I just called Salden. They'll mount them with Gomitalia "Magnum Cross" tubes for me. I suppose thats a good tube and this way I won't have to put them on myself. I will buy a single cheap tubular rim and a very cheap tube to practise my glueing skills before I "attack" my lightweights myself :D


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It all sounds great Timo(Wr)! It'll be a truly stealth machine when fitted with the LW's and the beautiful Pulsions... 8)


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