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 Post subject: Campy Shamals for cross?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:25 pm 
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Hi,

Would a set of Campy Shamals be suitable for cross? Can they fit a wider tire? I'm in the mood for a set of boutique wheels, hence the question. If not these, then what else?


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 Post subject: Campy Shamals for cross?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:35 am 
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How much do you weigh? I know some light guys who ride them and are ok. What is your definition of wide? For racing you'll probably using 33mm tyres, which will generally measure out to that sz on those rims. Obviously 35's wont stretch out to 38-40mm

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:08 pm 
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In the 'peg, you'll be fine. I know that on the course for Nationals has a really soft sandy section, but that is not typical. Accordingly, you can get away with shallower rims. I have found that Campagnolo rims do netter with wider tubulars, anyway. You'll still need to glue them up with 'Belgian' tape, though.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:24 pm 
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Thanks for the replies so far. I weigh 70kg at most. As for tire width, I was referring to the standard (is there such a thing?) 33mm.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:14 pm 
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Yeah, I get that question a lot, actually. The UCI rule does not actually apply to the casing dimensions (that would make too much sense). In fact, it is the tire at its widest part that gets measured. To make sure, I always say 'run a 32, then you should be safe'. Please note, I say 'should be safe'.

The problem is that there is a huge variation of wheel diameters. In the case of a bigger wheel (like a Zipp), your 34s can 'stretch' enough to be 33 once mounted. If I recall correctly from gluing Campagnolo rims for road, Campagnolo rims are on the smaller side of average. Accordingly, you are not going to get a stretch from those rims. I would recommend sticking with the 32s, to be safe.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:54 pm 
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Thanks Geoff,

Further to what I'm after, is there a set of boutique wheels anyone here would recommend for cross? I know, I know- just build my own. I have and I take great pride and satisfaction from having done so. I just want something new.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:11 am 
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How boutique do you want to go? Enve's are prob as nice as it gets for cross without going custom, IMHO. The rims are wide, light and pretty pimp.

If you want to go haute couture, then custom is the way to go. When I had my disc wheels built, I was inspired by eliflap-scalpel's 1060g wheels, but I quickly realized the price-point and upkeep of the extralite hubs were too much for my racing. I would imagine non-disc extralite hubs would net you a silly light wheelset with less spokes, complete with constant upkeep and upscale price tag... :D Is that boutique enough? :mrgreen:
(About half way down page 1 here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=128139&hilit=nextie)

For less boutique, more off-the-shelf, I can attest to Easton ec90slx. Mine are built on DT hubs, and weigh 1135g, and I've put them through the wringer. Those rims are 20.5mm wide, btw. I should add I weigh 62kg.

just some ideas 4 u...

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:57 am 
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You've got all the US boutique hubs, CK, White Industries, Industry Nine, lots to choose. The latter two would probably suit cross more. Agree with jcrr, Extralite are overkill for cx

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:06 pm 
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Once again, thanks for the info. I guess one of my concerns was whether any of the wheels are too fragile (a relative term) for the rigors of cross. I'm getting the impression that perhaps that is not so much a concern. I will admit to having toyed with the idea of a pair of Enve's with Extralite hubs, 20/24.

Starbike is also running a Reynolds promo that would give me 10% off a set of Assault's in addition to the WW discount, so I might go that route.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:33 pm 
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Lifespan of rim braked wheelset in CX is limited by rim. And usually is quiet short ( in comparison to road use : extremely short ) . That's why it's not best idea to NOT have handbuild thing on CX bike. You will end with worn to death rims, and still in nice condition hubs+spokes with uncommon lacing pattern..

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