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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:26 pm 
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Guys winning my league and placed better than me are on canti's. As for the pros, they will ride what they are paid to ride. IF I lived in a really muddy part of the world, or somewhere with lots of very technical courses I would say go with discs but for the vast majority of parkland CX courses they are a luxury and will make little or no difference to your results. What might make a difference is a set of tub wheels or even a spare bike with enlisted help in the pits.

So depending on your money -

1) a CX bike
2) a set of tubs
3) a spare bike
4) another set of tubs for spare bike
5) Get a coach and lose some weight
6) anything else including frame material and what brakes.


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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:58 pm 
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Did someone mention brake fade, disc brakes and cyclocross in the same sentence?

That's absolutely laughable. Come on.


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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:37 pm 
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It depends how one rides his bike and where. then is not laughable at all. Just use your imagination.

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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:47 pm 
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In a wet, muddy race where the mud is composed of sand or gritty earth, on a course with a lot of braking and especially controlled downhill sections, rider will go through a set of pads.

And then there is Three Peaks CX where a wet race means some riders will carry spare pads.

Where the canti rider will keep on going.

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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:08 am 
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stormur wrote:
It depends how one rides his bike and where. then is not laughable at all. Just use your imagination.
I'm a pro MTB racer, at least according to the UCI. A shitty one, yeah, but I'm not terrible at getting up or down the hill.

I live at 7,000ft, regularly ride up to 9,000ft from my front door, and back down again. On vacation I'll hit 5,000ft of continuous descending. Even on long road descents where I'm really pushing hard, I very rarely have brake fade. Sorry, I have a hard time believing that someone could possibly have brake fade on a descent with 50ft of vertical loss when I don't get it on something 40-100x bigger.

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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:07 pm 
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euan wrote:
In a wet, muddy race where the mud is composed of sand or gritty earth, on a course with a lot of braking and especially controlled downhill sections, rider will go through a set of pads.

And then there is Three Peaks CX where a wet race means some riders will carry spare pads.

Where the canti rider will keep on going.


The Three Peaks is a rather unique event and is not really your standard round a park CX race.


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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:08 pm 
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FWIW the last time i was support for Three peaks i had to swap my mates canti pads at the bottom of the second descent........ (this was ~20 years ago, so no disc CX bikes!)


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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:09 pm 
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stormur wrote:
It depends how one rides his bike and where. then is not laughable at all. Just use your imagination.
There is no part of the imagination that can get a CX bike, riding a CX race to have fading brakes.


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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:00 am 
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Lets help your imagination ;)

If someone use CX bike also as a road bike.... got it ?

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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:02 am 
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So not racing CX then?


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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:05 pm 
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mattr wrote:
So not racing CX then?


And shitty braking technique to boot.


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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:16 pm 
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I'm getting a new CX bike in the near future and going with discs

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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:35 pm 
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does it prove anything ? ;)

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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:49 pm 
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mattr wrote:
FWIW the last time i was support for Three peaks i had to swap my mates canti pads at the bottom of the second descent........ (this was ~20 years ago, so no disc CX bikes!)


I put on pair of Swissstop Blues at the start of a season, did Three Peaks, then did another two seasons on the pads :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: canti vs disc
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:51 pm 
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jmaccyd wrote:
The Three Peaks is a rather unique event and is not really your standard round a park CX race.


Yes. But I can name at least two courses where single bike users in a wet race have no braking after a hour of racing. They are all on disc brakes. Not all courses are in the fields around a leisure centre

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