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Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:12 am
by sedluk
That is because Enda Marron made all of the numbers up.
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:06 am
by 2011
When I was building my Parlee Z4 this past year, the shop had just got in a EVO frameset. I don't remember the numbers, but my Parlee Z4 was a hair lighter than the EVO of the same size.
I think Parlee Z5 SL is surely on the top of the list.
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:06 am
by Weenie
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Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:52 pm
by arousset
supersix evo in 48
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:50 am
by 2002SaecoReplica
Wilier Zero.7 is supposed to be sub 800 grams fully painted in size Medium.
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:09 am
by justkeepedaling
arousset wrote:supersix evo in 48
Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.
http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... D1&act=url
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:43 am
by kgt
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:08 am
by JensW
justkeepedaling wrote:arousset wrote:supersix evo in 48
Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.
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but how trust wordy is that scale?
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:21 am
by rambotan
justkeepedaling wrote:
Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.
This is a Evo Red frameset with clearcoat. The ultimate version should be about 50g lighter.
How much does the Cervelo R5 CA cost?
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:49 pm
by gumgardner
echtogammut wrote:I think the BH Ultralight might be on that list.
If they were going on claimed weight, then yes. Otherwise...NO
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/bh-ultralight-just-in-33209
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:35 pm
by djconnel
justkeepedaling wrote:arousset wrote:supersix evo in 48
Exactly proved my point. A size 56 cm is not coming out to 695 grams. Oh, and by the way, a Cervelo R5 CA in size 48 cm weighs 660 grams.
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Web site claims it's for the "Ultimate" frame.
It's possible they're binning frames, putting the 2-σ lightest on the Ultimate builds.
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:06 am
by spartan
the evo frameset retails for $3500 vs $9000 for the cervelo. willier is $5500.
a 56 black/white came out to 800g(ride magazine). remove the paint and easy ~750gm.
evo was tested to be more durable the caad10 frame.
peter denk(designer of the evo) has stated a 639gm frame was possible but too expensive to build.
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:42 am
by justkeepedaling
Not too expensive to build. More like compromising strength and stiffness. Cervelo added weight to the production R5 CA too in order to meet other performance goals. As said, I have not seen nor heard of any production PRODUCTION Cannondale Evos in size 56 cm coming in at 695 grams. Oh yeah, and clearcoat/finish? No, I don't think it adds 50 grams. MAYBE half that.
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:41 pm
by mrfish
I don't have numbers, but my understanding is that the following are pretty close real-weight wise:
Parlee Z5 SL
Cannondale Evo
Cervelo R5 CA
Then a little way behind
R5 VWD
Scott Addict
Storck 0.6
etc...
Bottom line is that it doesn't matter too much unless you're going all-out on weight. Better to choose the one which fits best and/or fits your budget best, then equip it with real tyres, saddle, comfy bars and ride the hell out of it.
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:34 pm
by Enda Marron
Mr.Fish,
Do you have any numbers to put alongside these frames (56cm)?
Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:34 pm
by Weenie
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Re: Lightest Frame
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:06 am
by mattiTWOROADS
I can only speak for the Parlee...
my z5sl size M (with parlee carbon mech hanger and bottle bolts) weighed in at 853g and the fork uncut was 295g. Perdy light.