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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:42 pm 
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Super hi-rez shots:

http://forallmyfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/shimano-dura-ace-11-speed-shifters.jpg

http://forallmyfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/shimano-dura-ace-11-speed-brakes.jpg

http://forallmyfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/shimano-dura-ace-11-speed.jpg

The brakes like like Trek's Active Braking Pivot system in that the caliper will move
"with" the wheel when engaged under hard braking conditions without losing power.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:00 am 
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Permon wrote:
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So where's the triplet/2:1 lacing?

All I see is 12DS and 12NDS spokes.


Oh man! You are right. Such "idiot" I am:-) :lol:
Thanx for opening my eyes :idea:


In picture 3 above (and same as shown a few pages back) I see something like 6 - 7 non drive side and something like 12 - 14 drive......


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:09 am 
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Fair enough, but we were talking about Neutrons/Hyperons, not the unmistakably triplet laced Shimano wheel.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 6:56 am 
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2ndgen wrote:
The brakes like like Trek's Active Braking Pivot system in that the caliper will move
"with" the wheel when engaged under hard braking conditions without losing power.

im not sure what you mean by that


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:22 am 
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thisisatest wrote:
2ndgen wrote:
The brakes like like Trek's Active Braking Pivot system in that the caliper will move
"with" the wheel when engaged under hard braking conditions without losing power.

im not sure what you mean by that


I think he means it seems similar to the trek brakes, the speed concept brakes work similar.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:59 am 
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alibongo wrote:
thisisatest wrote:
2ndgen wrote:
The brakes like like Trek's Active Braking Pivot system in that the caliper will move
"with" the wheel when engaged under hard braking conditions without losing power.

im not sure what you mean by that


I think he means it seems similar to the trek brakes, the speed concept brakes work similar.


Yes. It seems to have a pivot point in between the calipers that's meant to
offer some movement fore & aft to help keep the brakes from locking up.
But, I'm just guessing at pictures.

:)


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alibongo wrote:
3rd time trying to post!!

I rode it yesterday. It's nice, comfy. Best bit brakes, worst bit chainset / front mech looks ugly!

Brakes need a bit more work on the finishing IMO.


Rode what?

:?:

Sorry I had a play on a bike with the new groupset on.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:14 am 
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A little clearer pictures of Dowsett's bike.
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Hm, maybe the new lever's shape is not final... Of course it's just one broken lever, might not happen again, but it might be a design issue.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:18 pm 
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That's a strange crankset :\

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:26 pm 
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Oh no, not another chainring standard!!!!

Look pretty cool, but over a quarter of the chainring is unsupported. Sure they have done their homework.


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solarider wrote:
Oh no, not another chainring standard!!!!

Look pretty cool, but over a quarter of the chainring is unsupported. Sure they have done their homework.


They have to change the design do that compact rings will fit the same chainset is my understanding.

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it's a smart move for them, something proprietary so you can't buy after market stuff . . . at least for the moment


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hansonator69 wrote:
That's a strange crankset :\


solarider wrote:
Oh no, not another chainring standard!!!!

Look pretty cool, but over a quarter of the chainring is unsupported. Sure they have done their homework.


Seeing how the crank's spokes are placed in very specific areas,
I'd bet it has something to do with torque forces on a pedal stroke
like oval rings.

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Yes, very much like the Deda Lokomotiv?


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solarider wrote:
Yes, very much like the Deda Lokomotiv?


Possibly. Good example.
I'm sure Shimano designers has a reason to design it like they did.

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Also lets be honest, the vast majority of people run Dura-Ace rings on Dura-Ace cranks..... partially coz any other option looks hideous :oops:


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