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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:00 am 
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except that Campagnolo didn't invent 2:1 lacing :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:27 am 
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Who did?
Whatever. Campa has been using it for decades :beerchug: and their wheels are always the top in performance and durability.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:43 pm 
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I wouldn't say there is such a big difference between Shimano and Campag wheels, and if anything the Shimanos are ahead. Both overweight, overpriced and not that aero:

Campag's efforts on Aluminium clinchers are a laugh - let's take unaerodynamic proprietary spokes made of aluminium and add them to a pretty heavy mostly-standard hub and rim to build into a 1500-1600g wheelset and charge you £800 for the priviledge. Anyone buying them is nuts as they don't even ride that well. Yes they are robust, but most 1600g wheelsets are.

The only wheelset I rate from both manufacturers was the WR-R500 - there you got a good, basic wheelset with quite good aero properties and stiffness for less than £100. The fact it had hub-end nipple was neither here nor there as it never needed truing.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:55 pm 
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Wow, be prepared for a shitstorm from selfrighteous campy fanbois :)

@permon, Ford already used 2:1 lacing on their car wheels 100 years ago.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:58 pm 
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OK, Shimanobois. :welcome:
I just said, Shimano chose to go the way Campa does regarding rear wheel construction. :beerchug:
So it just took them 120year ....after Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily) . Campa delayed only 100 years :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:22 pm 
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I like the standard spoke spacing at the rim with Shimano's 2:1 lacing better than Campagnolo's G3 pattern(which I think they thought of, but not 2:1).


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:49 pm 
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bricky21 wrote:
I like the standard spoke spacing at the rim with Shimano's 2:1 lacing better than Campagnolo's G3 pattern(which I think they thought of, but not 2:1).


So do I. Hyperon and Neutron has 2:1 spoke pattern without G3. I have been running these wheels for more than 60 000km and HAVE NEVER EVER touched a spoke and I am not a light guy (85-93kg)

Sorry, back to Shimano! I d like to see the new cranks, they are roumoured to be 4 arm spider like MTB cranks are.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:13 pm 
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Permon wrote:
OK, Shimanobois. :welcome:
I just said, Shimano chose to go the way Campa does regarding rear wheel construction. :beerchug:
So it just took them 120year ....after Ford (Fix Or Repair Daily) . Campa delayed only 100 years :mrgreen:


willy waving fight!!!!!

campy sucks...fact ;)

seriously...who gives a sh*t..i like innovation from all sides..regardless of who is copying who :)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:20 pm 
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another thought though..ive only just got the current di2 and now there is a new set coming :evil:

..just when I thought I was done spending money on group sets...looks like Im gonna be buying more

...before you say it, YES, I need/want/must have them because Im an idiot and love wasting money :)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:35 pm 
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Permon wrote:

.... Hyperon and Neutron has 2:1 spoke pattern without G3. I have been running these wheels for more than 60 000km and HAVE NEVER EVER touched a spoke and I am not a light guy (85-93kg)


Nice, could you show me a photo of the rear hub?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:27 pm 
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Mackers wrote:
Permon wrote:

.... Hyperon and Neutron has 2:1 spoke pattern without G3. I have been running these wheels for more than 60 000km and HAVE NEVER EVER touched a spoke and I am not a light guy (85-93kg)


Nice, could you show me a photo of the rear hub?


What exactly would You like to see? And which hub? Neutron or Hyperon?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:47 pm 
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Either will do :)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:06 am 
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Mackers wrote:
Either will do :)


Looks like you are having fun :welcome: Whatever, I can play the game :lol:
But it would be better to get back to new DURA ACE. :smartass:


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There are pix in the "other DA thread"


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