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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:27 am 
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Starbike has the cranks priced at 509 euros, availability expected from Aug. 20 2012.


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That should also make it virtually interchangeable with 11-speed Campagnolo.

Whilst this may be so, why would you EVER actually *want* to do that?! :lol: :noidea:

It allows those less fortunate than others to experience cycling perfection on one part of their bike!


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:54 am 
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PhilNZ wrote:
Starbike has the cranks priced at 509 euros, availability expected from Aug. 20 2012.


178mm cranks! http://www.starbike.com/php/product_inf ... &pid=16221


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:55 am 
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can anyone confirm what the chain width/gear spacing will be?
That will confirm at last if you can use the new briftors and RD on a 10spd cassette.


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:57 am 
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PhilNZ wrote:
Starbike has the cranks priced at 509 euros, availability expected from Aug. 20 2012.


178mm cranks! http://www.starbike.com/php/product_inf ... &pid=16221" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Or they just rounded up from 177.5mm. Doesn't DA usually has 165, 177.5 & 180mm options, even if not at launch?


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:07 pm 
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Phill P wrote:
can anyone confirm what the chain width/gear spacing will be?
That will confirm at last if you can use the new briftors and RD on a 10spd cassette.

Isn't the fact that a Shimano big wig is running the 9000 setup on his 10spd bike confirmation enough?


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:12 pm 
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Phill P wrote:
can anyone confirm what the chain width/gear spacing will be?
That will confirm at last if you can use the new briftors and RD on a 10spd cassette.

Already been confirmed that it works.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:08 pm 
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BikeTart wrote:
Phill P wrote:
can anyone confirm what the chain width/gear spacing will be?
That will confirm at last if you can use the new briftors and RD on a 10spd cassette.

Isn't the fact that a Shimano big wig is running the 9000 setup on his 10spd bike confirmation enough?

The fact that a Shimano big wig is running the 9000 setup on his 10 speed bike means that there could be some custom trickery going on in the shifters so that he can run the new stuff. Not that it isn't possible that it will work with 10 speed, but I'm sure they would be willing to put a little extra effort in to make Wayne happy.


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The fact that a Shimano big wig is running the 9000 setup on his 10 speed bike means that there could be some custom trickery going on in the shifters so that he can run the new stuff. Not that it isn't possible that it will work with 10 speed, but I'm sure they would be willing to put a little extra effort in to make Wayne happy.[/quote]

Wayne didn't make the cut for an eleven speed wheel! Too much work involved to modify the shifter internals. Easier to adjust the high and low limits to lock out the eleventh click.

Let the conspiracy theories fly!

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:53 pm 
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BikeTart wrote:
Phill P wrote:
can anyone confirm what the chain width/gear spacing will be?
That will confirm at last if you can use the new briftors and RD on a 10spd cassette.

Isn't the fact that a Shimano big wig is running the 9000 setup on his 10spd bike confirmation enough?

The fact that a Shimano big wig is running the 9000 setup on his 10 speed bike means that there could be some custom trickery going on in the shifters so that he can run the new stuff. Not that it isn't possible that it will work with 10 speed, but I'm sure they would be willing to put a little extra effort in to make Wayne happy.


Seriously? LOOOOOOOOOL


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:22 pm 
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ultimobici wrote:
BikeTart wrote:
gmitt98 wrote:
That should also make it virtually interchangeable with 11-speed Campagnolo.

Whilst this may be so, why would you EVER actually *want* to do that?! :lol: :noidea:

It allows those less fortunate than others to experience cycling perfection on one part of their bike!


Actually - it means you can have Shimano wheels on all of your bikes, move stuff around easily, and get that Campy group you've always wanted without having to commit to another set of wheels, an expensive cassette, etc.

If the spacing is the same as 10-speed, then 10-speed chains should work as well. Wouldn't that be nice?


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:32 pm 
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gmitt98 wrote:
ultimobici wrote:
BikeTart wrote:
gmitt98 wrote:
That should also make it virtually interchangeable with 11-speed Campagnolo.

Whilst this may be so, why would you EVER actually *want* to do that?! :lol: :noidea:

It allows those less fortunate than others to experience cycling perfection on one part of their bike!


Actually - it means you can have Shimano wheels on all of your bikes, move stuff around easily, and get that Campy group you've always wanted without having to commit to another set of wheels, an expensive cassette, etc.

If the spacing is the same as 10-speed, then 10-speed chains should work as well. Wouldn't that be nice?

The idea of using Shimano wheels on a Campagnolo equipped bike is a complete anathema to me. Once you've tried Campag and realised it is what you want(need) then those Shimano wheels can trot off to eBay where they belong!

Judging by the increase in cost of the Dura Ace 9000 cassette it's not that desirous to have the ability any how. Shimano chains & cassettes have always been inferior to Campagnolo in wear terms so the cheapness of the cassette is moot.


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This is great and means that the new levers should be interchangeable with the old derailleurs. Makes it easier to piece the group together.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 3:20 am 
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This is great and means that the new levers should be interchangeable with the old derailleurs. Makes it easier to piece the group together.


This may or may not be ... remains to be seen.

Remember the 10 speed and 9 speed MTB rear derailleurs ?? How the 9-speed MTB ones were compatible with 10-speed road shifters but the 10-speed MTB ones were not ??? :roll:


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What's up with 2013 Di2? There's been precious little information. It seems odd teams running Dura Ace Di2 (7970) are moving back to mechanical 9000.


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