kgt wrote:202 better hubs than Hyperons? Are you sure
To those that don't want to spent the "plata" for the Hyperons, try to score a set of Neutrons for tubulars.
Fit a couple of Veloflex Carbons and enjoy the magical mystery tour.....
If you have factory-built Campagnolo wheels and are considering upgrading to 11 speed, read this first. According to the official Campagnolo website all Campagnolo wheels with a 9/10 speed freewheel body (cassette body) are compatible with 11 speed cassettes. This is misleading and is not strictly true as I have recently found out. I have two pairs of Campy wheels, Nucleon and Neutron (the later version of the Nucleon), and I recently upgraded one of my bikes from 10 speed to 11 speed. This bike had the Nucleon wheels on it however when I tried to fit an 11 speed cassette to it, the cassette scraped against the hub when it was spun, but when I tried this on the Neutron wheels the cassette fitted perfectly with no rubbing. The Campy 11 speed cassettes have a particularly deep recess at the back (deeper than 10 speed) and there is not enough clearance on the Nucleon wheel between the back of the cassette and the freehub. Comparing the two wheels, it appears that the freewheel body on the Neutron wheel stands about 1mm prouder of the freehub body than the Nucleon. According to the servicing leaflets, the freewheel bodies are identical on both Nucleon and Neutron wheels as are almost all of the internal components, so swapping over the freewheel bodies makes no difference. I have also taken the Nucleon wheel to Mercian Cycles in Derby, probably the most knowledgeable bike shop on Campagnolo in the UK. Even their chief mechanic Geoff was unable to convert the wheel to 11 speed as it seems that the freehubs on Nucleon and the later Neutron wheels are machined differently on the inside. The important observation is this: the original Campy Nucleon wheels are NOT compatible with 11 speed Campy cassettes despite what the official website says and they CANNOT be converted to 11 speed as they are internally different to the Neutron wheels that replaced them, which ARE 11 speed compatible and require no modification. Perhaps the only way around this would be to rebuild a Nucleon rear wheel using a freehub body from the later Neutron wheel, although this would be time-consuming, expensive and probably not worth the effort. This is a real shame as far as I am concerned as I think Nucleons are wonderful quality whees - just don't buy a pair thinking that you can run 11 speed on them. I have only experienced this problem with Campy Nucleon/Neutron wheels but it may well be that other factory-built wheels in the Campy range with older and newer versions might also have the same issues.
Calnago wrote:Re the differences between the Nucleon and the Neutrons... The Nucleons were first, around 2000 I believe. They had silver bladed spokes. There was a copyright thing with the "Nucleon" somewhere and Campy changed the name to Neutron. The Neutrons had black spokes and there was a bit more milling done on the rims between the spokes making them slightly lighter, etc. Graphics changed a couple of times. That's it really, as far as I remember. I've had them both, still have the Neutrons although in a clincher version.
There seems to be some different experiences with that. My sample of one says "yes;" I'm running 11 speed on mine with no issues.eurperg wrote:Are all Nucleon wheelsets 11-speed compatible?