Veloflex changes?

[slicedbread]

Just out of curiosity , why do you guys opt for tyres that wide ? I mean I usually opt for 19/20mm veloflex tubs or clinchers cuz I like the way they feel when cornering . Is it just for comfort or are there other reasons at play ?

cheers

[djconnel]

Yes -- more comfortable, and less rolling resistance at appropriate pressures on rough surfaces.

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Just out of curiosity , why do you guys opt for tyres that wide ? I mean I usually opt for 19/20mm veloflex tubs or clinchers cuz I like the way they feel when cornering . Is it just for comfort or are there other reasons at play ?

cheers

If there's any company (including FMB, Dugast and any other high TPI manufacturing brand) that really does not need a wider tyre then it'll be Veloflex.

That said, how well does a 19mm/20mm (Veloflex Record and SC are 20mm wide) corner? Not that well at all IMO...

22mm width seemed middle of the road given the high TPI count of Veloflex's road tyres?

Ciao ,

P.S. Slicedbread: I'm very familiar with the entire range of Veloflex tyres but as good as they are, cornering and 20mm tyres goes against any law of physics.....

[djconnel]

Narrower tires are generally shallower, and they thus decrease the trail, increasing quickness of handling.

But there's also the issue of the contact point moving laterally as the bike leans with wider tires. It seems intuitive that should this make narrow tires quicker, but it's not super obvious to me how to explain this.

[naisan]

After riding the veloflex roubaix (24mm) I have good things to report about flats, performance, feel, and comfort vs the veloflex carbons I've been riding. Wider is great so far. I wouldn't mind going to a 25 or 28 even.

I would love it if they came with a black sidewall though!

[micky]

Here we go, shortly the answers;

-yes, they will have wider tubolars on the model Carbon/Criterium and clincers Corsa/Master from 22 to 23
-the model Roubaix will turn to 25
-no change will be made on Extreme, Sprinter and Record (still 22)


I asked if the change to wider section is due to following the actual trend (wider is better) and he answered by saying its more related to the fact that it's just the tire nowdays which give some comfort to the ride (due to high use of carbon on the bike).

[newfy]

Thanks Micky. Thats great. Did you get an ETA on the changes?

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Thx. Micky.
Wider tyres allow higher volumes of air so, yeah... Hope they're not going to weigh much more than their already on the heavy side of the scale current weight....


@newfy: Normally you can expect the first production runs to hit the market in march/april next year.

Ciao,

[djconnel]

Unless you're already running your tires up around 150 psi, I think the gains offset the weight costs of tires closer to 25 mm: you can run higher pressure at the same comfort and rolling resistance will be less.

[fdegrove]

Hi,

Narrower tires are generally shallower, and they thus decrease the trail, increasing quickness of handling.

But there's also the issue of the contact point moving laterally as the bike leans with wider tires. It seems intuitive that should this make narrow tires quicker, but it's not super obvious to me how to explain this.

They could be but it certainly takes some getting used to. IME and from what other tell me, the 20mm tyres a la SC and Record feel as if your doing the high speed turns on a bladed object. I.e. all seems to go well till suddenlly they seem (but not necessarily do so) to lose grip.
It makes you very insecure at first but I suppose one can learn to overcome the initial fear. Not sure if I'm explaining this well.....

On a straight and reasonably good roadsurface they're certainly the fastest tyre I have ever ridden. They seem well suited to the width of the Bora rims I use.

For the part I put in italics, you mean this would increase Crr?

Ciao,

[slicedbread]

P.S. Slicedbread: I'm very familiar with the entire range of Veloflex tyres but as good as they are, cornering and 20mm tyres goes against any law of physics.....

Must be me then , I have more faith in them then a random vittoria corsa cx our team uses.

That being said , I might look into a pair of wider ones to go on my ambrosio nemesis build or low-profile carbon wheels to test things out...

[Kjetil]

Thanks micky and fdegrove.
Have lost my Vittoria religion and am in the process of stocking up on Extremes and Carbons for f/r application respectively. Shall be careful on the 22 mm Carbons, so that I can have 23's ready as early as market and aging allows.

[fdegrove]

Hi,

P.S. Slicedbread: I'm very familiar with the entire range of Veloflex tyres but as good as they are, cornering and 20mm tyres goes against any law of physics.....

Must be me then , I have more faith in them then a random vittoria corsa cx our team uses.

That being said , I might look into a pair of wider ones to go on my ambrosio nemesis build or low-profile carbon wheels to test things out...

Well, I suppose you're less chicken than me but as I clumsily tried to explain to Djconnel above, they sometimes can be a bit scary as they seem to go from a smooth round surface to what feels like the edge of the thread and sidewall. Scary.

That said, best of luck with the Nemesis rim.

Ciao,

@Kjetil: Vittoria offers a wide range, one that may or may not suit your particular needs.
Compliments appreciated.

[rruff]

I'm very familiar with the entire range of Veloflex tyres but as good as they are, cornering and 20mm tyres goes against any law of physics.....

They work fine.

[LouisN]

I hope they will sell the older 22mm carbons and criteriums at (ridiculously reduced )closeout prices ...

On my FFWD F6R rims, the 23mm tubs don't sit fully in the deeper portion of the rim, they mostly "sit" on the sides.
I bought a bunch of 22m carbons to get a better fit...


Louis