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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:59 pm 
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Even though i didn't receive much help in my previous attempt to narrow my choices down to just one, i have now decided to try again but this time with just two contenders.

As the title states, i am on the lookout for a new frame to replace my 2008 Neo Exile. It has served me well but the coming season will see me attempt some of the very long and demanding Randonees such as Oslo-Trondheim, Ötztaler Rad Marathon and the PR and RvV sportives. I might keep the Neo as my criterium and faul weather bike so i am really looking for a bike suited for longer distances.

Firstly, frame material.
- Carbon, if laid up correctly, will give me all the things i need in order to complete these races. It'll be plenty stiff, light and will handle the rough surfaces of the spring classics with no problem if specced correctly. The only downside is that carbon won't be as crash and dent resilient as titanium. And as this is a bike that will travel a lot in the back of various vans, this might become a huge problem. And maybe not...
- Titanium combines the best of both worlds in my humble opinion. Crash and dent resistent, light and plenty stiff. It also has the well known titanium durability and ridefeel.

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The Cervelo will be bought used and comes with the following items:
- Cervelo R3: Standard Cervelo fork, Cane Creek Headset and a 3t carbon seatpost, Rotor BBright to BSA BB.

The Lynskey will be bought brand new and so will the other parts.
- Lynskey Sportive: 3T Funda fork, CK headset, no seatpost.

Price

I can get the Cervelo for about 1800 USD. The Lynskey will be about 2400 USD.

Final decision

What will it be? The Lynskey is obviously going to be perfect for the PR and RvV because of it's ability to run 28 mm tyres. However it will significantly more expensive than the R3 which will be a lot lighter. And even though i probably can't run 28 mm tyres it is still going to be quite smooth with some nice 25 mm tyres.
I have tried to put together a list of pros and cons.

R3
-Pros:
Carbon frame
Cheaper then Lynskey
Replaceable dropout
Lighter
Stiffer?
-Cons:
Carbon frame
No 28 mm tyres
Won't enable me to completely build the bike myself as it comes assembled


Lynskey
Pros:
Titanium frame
Smooth and comfortable ( more or less than the R3?)
Durable
28 mm tyres
Self build
-Cons:
Heavyish
Expensive (when compared to the R3)
No replaceable dropout
Not as swift and responsive as the R3?

What does WW think? (other frame suggestions are welcome)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:00 pm 
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Obviously you are more than welcome to share your thoughts on the frames that i have already looked at.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:35 pm 
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If you want to go steel there are a host of VERY good steel builders. Also modern steel is not that heavy. Wheels will make a much bigger difference on weight that an extra 300grams on a frame.

Look at Hampsten bikes, DeSalvo, Enigma(UK)

There are many more as well and that will be a beautiful bike that can last a lifetime.
OR, you could look for a 2nd hand Colnago C40. Would be very comfortable, especially for those longer sportives. Also a classic frame and it doesnt give too much away to the newer carbon frames IMO.

Ti is nice but its expensive.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:18 pm 
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Thank you for the advice Andyindo... I'll look into those builders :)

And gosh, 122 views and 1 reply? Seems that i've set myself a harder challenge than expected :evil:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:18 pm 
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I have now narrowed down the frame choices to just two.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:38 pm 
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Lynskey, great bike and will stand up to be packed up and transported around so much better than the R3.


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The R3 will take a pounding, just like the Lynskey. It will be way more responsive and stiffer.


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Lynskey is art, Cervelo "only" a bike...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:24 pm 
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Fontana wrote:
Lynskey is art, Cervelo "only" a bike...


Only a Bike which Is a pure Race machine !

I own a R5, Ride R3 & The California this year.

All The Bikes has The Same charakteristic.

Stiff in The bB area and Front , ver comfy and a very Good agility.
The only differnce are The Weights!

So go and Ride your Art toy

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:08 pm 
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As mentioned above, some of Enigma's stuff is very very nice, and for the sort of money that you are looking at you could probably get a nice custom steel frame. That is if you don't mind the weight penalty. On the other hand, Lynskey frames are pretty special as well!


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Describe your randonees: will they have pit-stop or support, or are they self-supported?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:41 pm 
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justkeepedaling wrote:
The R3 will take a pounding, just like the Lynskey. It will be way more responsive and stiffer.

you must be joking, after 6months of use they look 6years old, light they might be , stiff is questionable, race machine only if you can bin it after a season, durable definatly not

theres a few carbon bikes i would feel happy with if i had to do a lot of travelling with them but not a cervelo


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Definitely the Lynskey. The stiffness of the Cervelo will be wasted on rides like this, and you'll still pay the comfort penalty.

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I also favour the Lynskey per your criteria.

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