Tune Mag 170 vs Alchemy Orc

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konky
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by konky

The only reason to go for a Tune hub over an Alchemy is weight. I chose Alchemy over Tune. In my view if there is one thing on a bike where strength and durability are more important than weight it's wheels.

If you wanted a super light (under 1000gms) low profile specialist climbing wheel you will have to go for something like Tune. If you want a wheel for regular use or a high profile wheel go Alchemy. It's a no brainer. Alchemy are designed to be ultra water resistant too. You can whack them through rainy conditions with no problems at all.

excremanwu
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by excremanwu

hi, I just got my MAG170 from starbike (172g)
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I would like to know how to remove the right aluminum cap as mentioned in the instruction?

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LionelB
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by LionelB

So is the 170 replacing the 180 or are they both continued?

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StuTheWeak
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by StuTheWeak

My question to heavy owners would be have you developed any serious play in the barings since owning/building up a rear using either hub?
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by madcow

excremanwu wrote:
I would like to know how to remove the right aluminum cap as mentioned in the instruction?


Just pull it off. It's not threaded it's just press fit.

LionelB wrote:So is the 170 replacing the 180 or are they both continued?


The 170 replaced the 180 and surprisingly even though it got lighter it got better in quite a few ways. The biggest is that we've not seen nor heard of a single case of the creaking issue that some of the 180 hubs suffered from.

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by LionelB

That's good to hear on the 170. My 180 took 3 trips to Tune to get the damn creak out :( Been happy with it since though.

excremanwu
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by excremanwu

madcow wrote:
Just pull it off. It's not threaded it's just press fit.


thank you, but it is too tight for me to do it by hand.... :noidea:

I put it close to my ear and turn the freewheel very very slowly, the engagement sound of MAG170 is just a single "tat" instead of MAG 180's "tat" "tat" "tat"....
I believe the engagement of MAG170 will be better.

btw, my solution to MAG180's creaking issue
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not sure is it work for all, but it works for mine

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by petal666

Pawl filing fixed my MAG180.

Stockie
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by Stockie

Sorry for digging up this old thread. But since there are quite a few of Alchemy ORC-UL hubs on the road now, how do these compare to the Mig170?
I Will make the leap

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