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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:34 pm 
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Just looking at bikes at work, we have the 2016 super six Ultegra and the dura ace. Both hi mod, apparently the same frame although one says made in china the other made in Taiwan?
It's hard enough to tell exactly what frame you're getting on the supersix, this just makes it even more complicated.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:04 pm 
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So I am guessing not the same quality of carbon being used on both bikes ?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:09 pm 
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i assume the ultegra is the china one?

is it the red or the grey dura ace?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:15 pm 
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Don't worry, there are not two versions. All of them are molded in China. If it's painted & assembled in Taiwan (usually complete bikes), it gets the sticker there.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:06 am 
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For those who don't know, Taiwan is part of the Republic of China so technically they are one in the same.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:18 am 
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When you buy Cannondale you are banking that they have a separate arrangement for quality control. They've stopped producing their own bikes so in the end its engineering, branding, advertising and name recognition. Seems to be a better engineered and more reliable product than say a Cervelo so why worry. If your concerned about who is actually making the bike and where its produced this is probably the wrong brand for you.

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fromtrektocolnago wrote:
...Seems to be a better engineered and more reliable product than say a Cervelo so why worry.


Mr. Rinard - any comments? :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:44 am 
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dvdslw wrote:
For those who don't know, Taiwan is part of the Republic of China so technically they are one in the same.

Taiwan : official name : Republic of China
China : official name : people's Republic of China.



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dvdslw wrote:
For those who don't know, Taiwan is part of the Republic of China so technically they are one in the same.


really?

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bikerjulio wrote:
dvdslw wrote:
For those who don't know, Taiwan is part of the Republic of China so technically they are one in the same.


really?


No, Taiwan is an independent state. Not part of China.


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Depends if you ask either a chinese or a taiwanese.
But this isn't a subject to discuss on a cycling forum.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:27 am 
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Formosa :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:36 am 
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Thanks for the info regarding the frames.
I like Cervello but there's something about the innovation, styling, history and uniqueness of Cannondale that I love.
I love the way they forge their own path, everyone else is making aero bikes and cannondale makes the slate. Following the road less traveled.
Also as a guy who loves taking things to bits, building and servicing bikes cannondale appeals. I love the BB30, the holowgram crank.

I don't care where the frames are made, I was just curious as it can be hard to find exactly which version you have.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:40 am 
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Image the Hi-mod Ultegra from Taiwan, the red Dura Ace version £3999 in the UK is the China version. Impossible to see any differences apart from the Dura Ace version being strikingly beautiful.


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Without data, it's just an opinion.

With data, ...but I can't talk about that. ;-)

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