roadytracky, I think Kyle is saying the ED hub is better in durability and cheaper, quite the contrary.

i have sent you pm message.

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as i remembered one of my buyer also give me feedback of too much grease. i will let our colleague know.

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yeap, Ceramic ED hub are our own design processed by Bitex company, so have advantages in price. with six pawls paterned design, 3 each pawls interchangeable. durable, safer, taking USA Enduro bearings, 4pcs both front&rear, working smoothly.

this version is without logo, preferred by guys, becuse they can put their ideal decal on them.

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I forgot to mention. I have a real struggle to get the tyres on the FSC50-CM wheels. I have this struggle with Veloflex clinchers as well as the Conti GP4000s. Do you expierence the same? Fulcrum wheels I change tyres within 2 few minutes.

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what is Mae's direct email?

i'm not prepared to ship back the entire set of wheels...unless the hubs are completely swapped out for the ED hubs. otherwise, it doesn't pay for me to just find bearing replacements.

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- Storck Fenomalist + Campy SR11 + Enve 45
- Parlee Z5 SL + DA7900 + Enve 3.4

i don't think my issues are grease related. when turning by hand (off the bike), you can feel a gravel-like sensation...which leads me to believe that one of the bearings cracked and is floating in there.

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if you use rim tape...i can see why. i use the red veloplugs and allows me to get the most stretch for the tire to get on.

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- Parlee Z5 SL + DA7900 + Enve 3.4

I use green velox rim tape. Good cotton rimtape, but I will check red veloplugs.

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Hi kylefoo

Its great that you are available on this forum to answer questions.

What size bearings do the Hubsmith front and rear hubs take? Does the Hubsmith front take 2 or four bearings? (http://www.farsports.cn/ViewProduct.aspx?id=692)
On this page (http://www.wheelsfar.com/38mm-clincher-wheels1250g-30g-p-220), it seems like Hubsmith are the ED hubs for which there is also a ceramic option - is that correct?
At 250g, this seems quite light for a hubset.
Thanks

ph

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it is info@farsports.cn

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Hi, the Hubsmith, yeah, 2pcs bearings front, 4pcs rear. it also have ceramic bearings version, but now we seldom supply. because most our clients prefer ED hub(ceramic bearing, with 4pcs bearing both front and rear), Enduro USA bearing, only 257g/set.

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I have the FSC50-CM great wheels so far, the brake track looks a little funky right now but performs the same since day 1. had it for about 700 kms

I just got the FSC50-CM yesterday from Farsport. Before riding I pulled off the free hub and front axle caps to check grease etc. I have the EDhub and am pretty sure it only has 2 bearings on front hub. I could only remove one end cap and could not work out how to get the other cap/shaft off to inspect 2nd bearing.

I can't see much need for 4 bearings on a front hub but stand corrected.

About people going for 4x front hub bearings:

From what I have seen, front hubs that use 4x bearings, have used 688 bearings (ie American Classic Micro 58, Bitex RAF10, BHS SuperLight Wide Front). I haven't had the best durability with these small bearings (inner diameter 8mm). I believe someone even referred to these as RC car bearings. I think there is good reason why a really highly rated hub like the Alchemy uses 2x 6900 bearings in the front hub. The inner diameter or axle diameter of 10mm probably contributes to the stiffness and the larger bearing has a higher static load. There seem to be small but growing number of non-brand name hubs using 6900 front bearings. For me, I would take a 15g penalty for a front hub with better bearings and less headache over time. I have a Bitex RAF13 that uses a 699 bearing (9mm inner diameter). This was the best I could find a few years ago (in that price range). I haven't had problems with this Bitex hub but then again this is a light weight 20mm carbon tubular wheel I have mainly ridden in the summer.

I was hoping kylefoo could chime in with the bearings used in the ED hub and the Hubsmith front bearings.