What do you guys think of the storck Scenario 0.9? are their any reviews of the frame? anyone here owns it and would like to share some insight on the frame? how would you compare this frame to the Scott C1R

Well it looks nearly identicle to the Scott!

Well it's 175E less than the Scott.

This is what they say about the scenrio 0.9 on their website:

"The Scenario Carbon sets new milestones with its features. We have built an outstanding frame which - despite its super light weight of less than 1000 grams (Scenario C 0.9) – has a never before acheived STW - ratio and shows exceptional longtime durability.
The only difficult choice is the one between the Secnario C.0.9 weighing less than 1000 grams with its super high durability carbonfibres, and the Scenario C.1.1 with some 150 grams more weight. The Scenario Carbon is produced in a compact geometry and therefore available in four different frame sizes, with different downtube - diameters according to the stress, which should fit all riders.You will soon become a fan of the wonderful carbon look. Scenario Carbon the ultimate racing machine"

i emailed them asking what is the STW ratio and the frame stiffness. its also cool that you get to choose the frames downtube size.

I don't think you can choose the diameter of the down tube, there just saying the diameter is specific to each frame size.

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good catch superlite, now that i have read it again i understood it.

But still sounds like a good frame. now how would it compare to a scott c1r

Just thinking: the Scott and the Storck are both made in Taiwan, and there are 4 size, they look the same, so aren't they just the same???

I don't think the top of the seat stays is quite right, I think the Scott's are MUCH chunkier where it meets and forms that large block...if you get what I mean

this is the email i got back from storck:

"we made a few changes at the frame which also changed the stiffness. But We
got the first prototype in here today. So we don´t have the stiffness or
STW-ratio yet.

Here are the downtube diameters:

size 51cm: 44mm
size 55cm: 44mm
size 59cm: 50mm
size 63cm: 52mm

I also send this e-mail cc to our US distributor.
Here is his mail address if you have any questions about import bob@storckUSA.com"


the scott and storck frames come in different sizes. scott comes in a 56cm storck does not.

alot of these frame are made in taiwan, kestrel, giant, trek, the list goes on... i know martec makes the talons for kestrel

[quote="Incomplete Pete"]I don't think the top of the seat stays is quite right, I think the Scott's are MUCH chunkier where it meets and forms that large block...if you get what I mean[/quote]
Your totally right Pete, I was just looking at the Scott, and it doesn't have a mono-type seat stay like the Storck, good catch!

It is a possibility that they are made up on the same mold, but if that was the case I'm pretty sure that they lay ups they use are very different. So they may be visually the same, but physically very different.

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Here is my Storck C1.1
It doesn`t look like a Scott.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/tourgallerie// ... hp?pos=-51

Weight is 6.7kg
Frame 59cm incl. headset and seatbinder 1290gr.

well they changed the frame but here are the specs for the old storck 0.9

"The BB stiffness of the first C0.9 was 89Nm/° and the lateral stiffness was
68Nm/°. The weight of this frame was 970g so the STW lateral is 70.1 the BB
STW is 91.75 so the total STW is 80.93"

the new one is suppose to be stiffer and lighter. by the way my freind is telling me he can get me a scott c1r frame unbranded really cheap, he has connections with the top carbon makers in taiwan.

Where can we get one?

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2012 Cannondale Supersix EVO SRAM Red 10.8#'s
2012 Cannondale Super X 14.1#'s and dropping....
2011 Cannondale Carbon Flash 1 17.2#'s
1999 Cannondale F2000, SRAM XO 18.9#'s
http://cbevo.com/2012_cd_supersix_evo_31.html

where can you get what? the storck or scott frame?