showdown wrote:I'm also not necessarily convinced that these companies would sell rejects... I'm not sure any company would risk selling a rejected product... perhaps I'll be called naive but until I see some empirical evidence of this practice methinks it best to not toss around allegations...
Since I graduated in 97 I have worked in R&D of companies that produce consumer electronics. During my work I have tested and evaluated tons of OEM manufactured electronics and belive me. There are so much junk produced that you would not belive it.. Just last week we did some EMC (How much noise a product emit) testing of a new product. This product inluded a power adapter, bought (cheaply no doubt) from a chinese factory that make these for a living. The adapters had the approvals, but they blew through the noise limits set by the standard! And there is no way they could have passed approval.
Now would a consumer ever notice - No it requires a spectrum analyzer to see the problem. The Power adapter works fine on its own, but may utterly destroy the performance of electronics in its vicinity! So now we have to battle the factory to get the quality in order. If they don't comply we will find another supplier... What do you think will happen with all those adapters they should deliver to us??? We won't buy em because they do not live up to the specifications we gave them.
I will bet you that they will sell them cheap to someone else (They are standard mini usb adapters)
showdown wrote:On a side note- my team was sponsored by Trek a few years ago when they introduced the Madone. We ultimately had to send back all of the frames due to failing carbon BB's and resin cracks that when shown to a former aerospace engineer who formerly worked for Trek and now works for another major cycling company declared with certainty that the issues we were seeing were a result of poor production and should not have met quality control. It was his belief the in an effort to meet the overwhelming demand for the hot hot hot Madone, Trek rushed the production process and lowered the bar for quality control... This all coming from a person who worked on the Madone design team. So there's that...
Yes flaw's happen even for the best of companies (Remember the Mercedes A series that tilted when doing slalom?) but Trek would do what it takes to fix it! Most likely the problem was at the factory they used. Maybe that factory is Hong Fu today? And trek dumped them?
I have been responsible for dumping subcontractors that could not deliver the promised quality!