Showdown "A factory that is not producing product is not selling product and as such not making money" is off base as it relates to cycling production related to this thread. Manufacturing for Cycling frames (and a few other arbon parts) are typically build to spec.
They hire people and buy material for a run of product after it's designed and sold and fire when they dont need the people to produce and they dont run product related to this thread unless they know exactly what they're making and who's buying it.
Tug Boat wrote:
Tug I dont think you're 100% wrong and I dont think I'm 100% right.
I think a house spec from Planet X are a little different than buying something unbadged off ebay. In the case of MANY brands (not just the little one's) a model of bike (or other) will be purchased after seeing a show model, but that is VERY different than thinking there is a stock of that product sitting around. Reputable manufacturers can ramp up a run of something so fast now that making product ahead of selling it is now simply gambling and just not done with high ticket things like frames and tooling for wheels.
Your thought about how it would works for some large companies also applies to many small companies... But while there are mistakes in production leaving material, there are little if any over runs and most companies, large and small, own any production of what they spec'd.
The far east is a spec producer for the most part in cycling. Factories dont make a production run of bike parts and then look for a buyer. The standard (even for very small brands) is to look at the tube shapes available and build up a bike from available material and shapes in a factories available patterns or they design and spec their own and make an order with that factory. Substantial over runs of bike frames are not common. Carbon costs too much and so do people (of course people pay is relative) and factories simply dont make big quantity errors. Despite our love of calling carbon cheap cookie cutter, virtually everything including monocoque bikes take time and hand work to set up.
When a company has a small over run, the bikes for any major brand will go to that brand... unless there's a problem with the product. At that point virtually all companies requesting a spec build will go and see that the product from their design and spec that fails to meet standards is destroyed. Sometimes some of this product makes it out... And that is why you VERY frequently see product that looks familiar.
It's not always the case. But it is frequently enough...