Hed or Bontrager
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They are both! They are a bontrager xxx lite wheel that is sent to Hed who bonds a carbon aero fairing rim onto the wheel rim.
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Yep, both. The fearing is the same as Hed uses on their Deep 60 wheel. The rim is the xxx carbon.
How do they do this with UCI rules?
Either it is an untested unconventional wheelset and not allowed. Or it is a bontrager xxx carbon that is tested but with an extra fairing made by HED. The fairing does nothing to the integrety of the wheel and is purely for aerodynamics, so not allowed...
Either it is an untested unconventional wheelset and not allowed. Or it is a bontrager xxx carbon that is tested but with an extra fairing made by HED. The fairing does nothing to the integrety of the wheel and is purely for aerodynamics, so not allowed...
Boonen wrote:How do they do this with UCI rules?
Either it is an untested unconventional wheelset and not allowed. Or it is a bontrager xxx carbon that is tested but with an extra fairing made by HED. The fairing does nothing to the integrety of the wheel and is purely for aerodynamics, so not allowed...
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Boonen wrote:How do they do this with UCI rules?
Either it is an untested unconventional wheelset and not allowed. Or it is a bontrager xxx carbon that is tested but with an extra fairing made by HED. The fairing does nothing to the integrety of the wheel and is purely for aerodynamics, so not allowed...
Yes, i think so. Maybe something like mavic does with their cosmic carbone.
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Boonen wrote:How do they do this with UCI rules?
Either it is an untested unconventional wheelset and not allowed. Or it is a bontrager xxx carbon that is tested but with an extra fairing made by HED. The fairing does nothing to the integrety of the wheel and is purely for aerodynamics, so not allowed...
That rule is a bunch of hooie anyway. Just another one of those fuzzy UCI rules created so they and keep on making up the real rules as they go.
If they really were going to enforce that rule, then helmet should be rounded and all tubes on bike should be round too. They don't need to be aero, but they are. Soloist bikes, out...FSA wing drop bars, out...Mavic CC, out.
BTW - The basic construction structurally is exactly like the Mavic, only with a carbon rim not the AL one Mavic uses.
Is it just me or do the frame angles on that bike look incredibly relaxed? Perhaps that's why his saddle is quite far forward for a pro bike...
Yes, but only sort of. They are shallow, but Treks also have the annoying and pointless feature of the seat tube not being centred on the bottom bracket centre, but ahead of it. If this was to make the rear end tighter I could understand it but in fact there is a 2cm gap between wheel and seat tube. So it is very difficult to work out what the seat angle is.
All in all then, indecipherable geometry and pointless gappy rear end. No wonder all the people I know with Treks are getting rid of them.
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dude it is on the list, under trek...
http://62.50.72.82/modello.asp?1stlevel ... dnews=1628
Trek
- Bontrager X-Lite Tubular
- Bontrager X-Lite Clincher
- Bontrager Race Lite Tubular
- Bontrager Race Lite Clincher
- Bontrager Race X Lite Carbon
- Bontrager Race X Lite Aero
- Bontrager Aero Tubular
- Bontrager Aero Clincher
- “Vector Comp” (Rolf)
- “Vector Pro” (Rolf)
- Triple XXX lite aero rim (16 rayons/spokes) h90
- Triple XXX lite aero rim (16 rayons/spokes) h60
http://62.50.72.82/modello.asp?1stlevel ... dnews=1628
Trek
- Bontrager X-Lite Tubular
- Bontrager X-Lite Clincher
- Bontrager Race Lite Tubular
- Bontrager Race Lite Clincher
- Bontrager Race X Lite Carbon
- Bontrager Race X Lite Aero
- Bontrager Aero Tubular
- Bontrager Aero Clincher
- “Vector Comp” (Rolf)
- “Vector Pro” (Rolf)
- Triple XXX lite aero rim (16 rayons/spokes) h90
- Triple XXX lite aero rim (16 rayons/spokes) h60
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rico wrote:Is it just me or do the frame angles on that bike look incredibly relaxed? Perhaps that's why his saddle is quite far forward for a pro bike...
rico
it is 73 degrees, pretty darn standard.
the front is fairly tight, I assume to make more stable...73.8 degrees.
You have to realize treks stock sizes are lance's custom size, not really what would be best for the rest of the world.
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