Check this guys bike...

[520 Dan]

I saw this ont he Campy-only website http://www.campyonly.com/images/modbike ... 1_1024.jpg

Its gorgeous, I think it may be a top carbon, but its definitly 04 record and (again with the confusion) either ADAs or lightweights.

[Florian]

The wheels are Lightweights.
On the closeup you can see rests of the white Lightweight logos, which were rubbed off.

[ks04us]

Also, the front wheel has a magnet, ADA's have magnet embedded into them, so there would be no need for a magnet.

[spytech]

What seat is that on that bike?

[520 Dan]

it a fizik carbon

[520 Dan]

either way, the guys bike is gorgeous. Assuming he paid retail, the whole thing is easily $10K, and (depending on size) around 14 lbs low, maybe 13 high, without getting into silly light parts.
Does anyone know anything about the fondriest Top Carbon? I haven't seen any reviews, and even the fondriest direct website didn't list any reviews. The manufacturers claimed weight for the '04 model is 940gm. Any info at all?

[Superlite]

From my experiance Fondreist frames are usually off of there claimed weight by quite a bit. I've weighed the several P4's and all of them were over 150g off the claimed weight.

[spytech]

But its still a nice frame. anyone know where i can get my giant frame painted with clear coat?

[Joel]

That frame costs 5000 euro