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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:02 pm 
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Can anyone confirm that the mechanism in the current campag ergo chorus, record and SR 11sp shifters is significantly different from the first generation (2009/10?) 11sp ergos? Does the shifting feel different, and if so is it possible to get parts to upgrade the older ergos?

I have the earlier 11sp record ergos and while they are OK, the shifting isn't as good as on my older 10sp chorus. The problem is that the force required to overcome the "click" mechanism on the thumbshifter means that it is too easy to shift 2 gears instead of one by mistake.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:18 pm 
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The complete shifter assy part # for record and chorus is the same for 2009 as 2011 - EC RE100.

Campy are no longer selling individual parts.

There was a complete redesign between the older 10 speed mech and the 2009 mechs, and everything I have experienced & read suggests that shifting is lighter with the new.

Personally I prefer the old 10 speed ergos and am amassing a collection!

Campy seems obsessed with making the shift action lighter - as though we are all loosing the use of our hands. I like firm audible clicks.

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I believe that Campagnolo went back to more resistance (harder) shifting in 2011 after super soft feel of 2010.

If I compare my 2002 record (10 speed) and 2011 SR they feel very similar in regards to resistance, but SR is way more precise.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:20 pm 
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Yes 2011 11-speed is much more precise than 10-speed.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:20 pm 
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Hi,

bikerjulio wrote:
The complete shifter assy part # for record and chorus is the same for 2009 as 2011 - EC RE100.

Campy are no longer selling individual parts.

There was a complete redesign between the older 10 speed mech and the 2009 mechs, and everything I have experienced & read suggests that shifting is lighter with the new.

Personally I prefer the old 10 speed ergos and am amassing a collection!

Campy seems obsessed with making the shift action lighter - as though we are all loosing the use of our hands. I like firm audible clicks.


Even the top of the range 10S shifter were way too soft for me. My fave are the older Centaur (2005 or thereabouts) and of course the Record Red.

Campa are no longer selling their spares in the U.S.A., I think. In Europe you can still get spares for the 11S range.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:16 pm 
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To expand on my original answer.

Even though the assy # is the same for 2009-2011, it does not preclude a running change to individual parts. So, as others have reported it's quite possible there is indeed a difference over that time.

However, I just checked a couple of my usual sources - Bikeman and Branford, and did not find a 11-speed assy listed. And even if it was, it would probably not be an economic swap.

The best advice I can think of is to ebay off your existing levers and buy new from Ribble.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:03 am 
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Having had 2009 and 2010....then 2011 on a 3rd bike....yes a very noticeable improvement with the 2011 version. Enough to replace the older versions I had with this more solid and precise version.

Having kept an eye on the spare parts lists.....I've got to conclude that the intent is to list a part number that will both work for current and as needed work for others wanting to replace/upgrade their 09/10 shifters too....since the lever bodies and lever mechanisims are the same.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:47 am 
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Thanks for the replies, very interesting!

So, to summarise as I understand it:

1) The complete record ergo internal mechanism when sold as a spare part is EC RE100 (right) or EC RE101 (left), which is fitted as standard in chorus as well as in record. The dubiously superior super record equivalents are EC SR100 & EC SR101.

2) Any EC RE100/101 or EC SR100/101 will fit in any 11sp record, super record, or chorus ergo body (i.e. 2009 or after).

3) The EC RE100 (and also EC SR100?) mechanism was improved with the 2011 version (more precise), although the part number and compatibility is exactly the same as in 2010. Before that (in 2009), the mechanism was sold as individual spare parts (although these collectively are probably exactly equivalent to the 2010 EC RE100?)

(**edit - removed references to Athena as the situation is complex with different year's models being compromised ultrashift, powershift etc.** )


So if possible I want to get hold of current EC RE100 / EC RE101. Failing that, a set of 2011 chorus ergos (or record purely for the aesthetics).


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