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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:05 am 
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Hi guys,

Does anyone know what weight the colnago m10 is? I have a manufactures weight of 850g, I know it includes no fork but I don't know if the rest is just an empty shell or not.

Also anybody see any reviews of this frameset?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:17 pm 
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cappo455 wrote:
Hi guys,

Does anyone know what weight the colnago m10 is? I have a manufactures weight of 850g, I know it includes no fork but I don't know if the rest is just an empty shell or not.

Also anybody see any reviews of this frameset?

Cappo


Havent seen anyone with an m10 yet? are they shipping? 2011 i was told after interbike
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:31 pm 
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I had one on scale.
Seems little porky to me, 52s with seat post clamp, hanger etc it was 1040g

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:37 pm 
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That's still a better weight than the CX-1.
Weighed a CX-1 at the LBS:
Size 50S frame with pressed in headset bearings, seatpost clamp, derailleur hanger and water bottle screws = 1280 grams
...and before the introduction of the M10, the CX-1 was supposed to be the lightest frame in Colnago's line-up :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:48 pm 
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Turbokeo,

What do you reckon complete frame weight would be including fork?

And I will need a 58, would it be much heavier than the 52?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Hello guys. I've found over the years that Colnago have become increasingly vague about their frame weights. I bought a C40 in 1999 and at that time the frame weight they quoted in their brochure was pretty accurate - 1260g for a painted C40. In 2006 I bought an Extreme C, Colnago's reputed superlight climber's frame. It was difficult to find any accurate weight details about the frame, there certainly wasn't anything on the Colnago website. Anyhow I was a little disappointed to find the frame actually weighed 1160g and that was lacquered not painted. Don't get me wrong, the Extreme C was a fantastic frame but even when it was first released it was a little dated in the face of emerging Scotts and Cervelos etc.

I'm presently riding a Scott Addict which is my first venture away from Colnago since the C40 and I must say I'm absolutely stunned. Superlight, jaw droppingly responsive in the race situation and not bad in the comfort stakes I must say I'm well impressed. That said, the finish is nothing compared to a Colnago and I would have concerns how the Addict would fare in a crash but I guess it's horses for courses.

I am considering a M10 for next season and, given Colnago's aversion to very light frames, 1040g isn't too bad - even with a conservative build the bike would be close to the UCI limit. TurboKoo any idea of the fork weight? I imagine the M10 will be lighter than the lugged C59 which Colnago states will be around 1000g - probably in small frame size unpainted.

Cappo do you mean 58cm traditional or sloping? If it's traditional then that'll be 54s - maybe another 50-100g heavier than the 52s.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:53 am 
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Liam

I recieved this e-mail from a dealer in the UK

"Hi Niall,



The frame weight on both models can change with frame size and colour ways, a C59 in a 54cm Sloping painted weighs around 1600g for the frame and fork and the only weight I have for the M10 is 850g for the frame which is a manufactures weight."

Apparently the m10 will be lighter than the c59, how much by, i dont know?


In response to these questions;

"Cappo do you mean 58cm traditional or sloping? If it's traditional then that'll be 54s - maybe another 50-100g heavier than the 52s."

I think that the m10 will only available as a sloping frame

could you explain what 54s is? Is a 58cm frame not a 58cm frame whatever bike? Excuse my ignorance i have never had a colnago before, is this some italian frame building code?

Cappo :)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:08 am 
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cappo455 wrote:
could you explain what 54s is? Is a 58cm frame not a 58cm frame whatever bike? Excuse my ignorance i have never had a colnago before, is this some italian frame building code?

Cappo :)

54s means 54 sloping. the actual top tube is 54 (or there abouts) and the effective top tube is 56.5. if you want a true 58, you need a 56s.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:26 pm 
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Sorry Cappo the "s" simply refers to sloping top tube geometry. Colnago still produces their top end carbon frames, certainly those actually made in Italy such as the C59 and the EPS, with both horizontal and sloping top tubes. The frame size refers to the seat tube length and basically with Colnago you deduct 4cm to convert from horizontal to sloping frame sizes. Everything else such as head tube length, seatstay length, and reach/top tube length should pretty much remain the same. Therefore your 58cm frame size, which I'm assuming refers to a frame with a horizontal top tube, would convert to a 54cm sloping. I ride a 56cm horizontal top tube which would be 52s etc. Do bear in mind that Colnagos do have a fairly short top tube compared to some other makes of frame. For example the 56cm/52s frame size has a top tube of 55cm centre to centre. Your 58cm frame, if I recall correctly, has a top tube of 56.3cm. If you pop on to Colnago's website you'll see the geometry tables are quite well laid out.

For 2011 I'm assuming that the M10 will be Colnago's top "made in Taiwan/painted in Italy" frame and, in my honest opinion, none the worse for it. I'm guessing it'll certainly be the lightest frameset in the Colnago range. It also looks like it will only be available in sloping geometry in 2cm increments. Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:51 pm 
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This is my matte black m10 in size 50s with headset cups and hanger installed. Fork has crown race installed and is uncut.

Anyone have experience with the matte Colnago's? The decals appear to have little or no clear coat protecting them. Is this normal?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:35 pm 
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Colnago have never made weight weenie frames, and I dont think you buy one for that reason either :wink:


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andyindo wrote:
Colnago have never made weight weenie frames, and I dont think you buy one for that reason either :wink:


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I should add, for 1045g the beefiness of the frame in person is astonishing. It should actually weigh more. It makes my Extreme Power look like a toy. I'm considering a build thread for this one but I'm still a ways out on parts.


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